Dude, I think you and your fireteams determination is to be commended!! I've looked into this Oath and have determined that there are too many random things that actual penalise the Sherpa's that it isn't worth doing. In addition our clan has grown so much since D2 began were busy helping our own noobies get through first. I hope this gives Bungie a little time to readjust it's rules. I understand why they have done it this way and very much agree with a lot of it but having completed over 600 raids in D1 I know there are a million potential reasons why a raid attempt fails. Where as this Oath only ever penalises the helpers no matter what happends and that seems overly unfair.