I'll sum it up.
He gives it a 6/10.
He gave Destiny 1 a 6/10.
Here is a sum up of his reasons for the rating (which means slightly above average since a 5/10 means average from him.)
First, the positives:
-Music is amazing
-Cayde-6 is amazing
-Gunplay mechanics are amazing
-Subclass changes are good
-PvP is fun and well paced
-There is an actual, cohesive story
-Progression is solid
-Clan features are welcomed
-New strikes are better than D1's
-Less "sit in room and fight waves of enemies" missions
-both sky boxes and art are amazing
-cinematic cutscenes and voice acting are great
Now, the negatives:
-One time use shaders
-Raid is extremely tedious and not rewarding enough
-story is basic and cliché
-no in-game Grimoire (an actual codex of lore instead of random scattered lore)
-microtransactions
-epic music plays when nothing epic happens on screen
-poor AI (not improved since D1, enemies stand around and charge single file)
-exotic engrams drop duplicates too often
-you can't choose gamemodes in PvP
-cringy Failsafe dialogue
-little to no insight/story development on the people that actually live in the Last City (no reason to fight)
-lazy copy paste elements (gear, enemies, character creation)
-you get your Light way too early in the campaign
-no sparrow early on (forced to walk long, empty distances)
-low quality textures and effects in some instances
While I still love Destiny and am having a great time in Destiny 2, I agree with Joe on a lot of his points.
This really is Destiny 1.5. It's the Destiny we should have gotten the first time around.
As a long time fan and someone that has played these games religiously since the beta all the way through 3 years, I have to say I am somewhat disappointed in this sequel.
I think Destiny 2 is a "two steps forward, two steps back" situation and agree with Joe's assessment for the most part. Though, I think a 7/10 is more justifiable.
What are your thoughts?
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Who actually watches this scumbag?
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1 ReplyCheck out his crappy stats online and what he has done will tell you how much of an attention seeking -blam!- nuckle this guy is.
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Downvote. I hate that annoying -blam!-ing guy.
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Edited by zSwabee: 9/18/2017 5:18:45 AMI agree with your assessment, but I don't agree with being disappointed. I mean they basically came out and said that this was a redo. But yeah, I also thought 7/10 was better. Personally I would give it an 8, and I thought destiny vanilla was worthy of a 4, despite playing the ever living shit out of it.
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Edited by Reubenatrix: 9/18/2017 3:19:57 AMHe's quite accurate and I agree with most of his points. Its like a really good Destiny expansion, but really didn't require us to remake the same characters from the ground up. 10 year plan my arse.
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4 RepliesAgain, if Joe had given D2 anything higher than a 6, his super toxic subscribers would crucify him again. He's become a hostage to them and his content shows it. It has become somehow cool or edgy to shit on this game. By the same people that probably dab.
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9 Replies-blam!-ing Joe and OJ don't know shit about destiny. That's what I think.
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There are a few things missing from D2 but the most glaring flaw is that there are no additional features for character customization. Not one. They couldn't be bothered to fart out 2 new hairstyles? One extra face? Kind of like they took a pair of shoes you've been wearing all year, washing them and selling them back to you at full price and expecting a standing ovation and awards.
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8 Replieshe has it in with destiny because his hype for the first one was way to high.. im not going to lie he is very very on point with his reviews im not bashing him he knows his stuff, he can we very arrogent sometimes though and most of his fans just agree to what he says and act like they know everything about the game after the review even if they have not played it, i have a friend IRL that does this and i know alot of others do to.
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Angry Joe is an a$$hat. I don't know why anyone listens to that Pole smokin d bag
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i can see where he's coming from but i personally love destiny
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I've played this series since the alpha and even I agree with the dude. A 6/10 doesn't mean it's not fun. Fun is subjective and it shouldn't result in a higher score. Half of the features in this sequel are lazy anyways lol
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2 RepliesI see some of Joe's views, but think he missed the mark on this review. I hear a lot of confirmation bias in his arguments. Most of his big fans/target audience will just accept everything he says as true and valid without testing the game for themselves.
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4 RepliesJoe Vargas is a joke. Hes reviews are all super based on what he likes. And -blam!- him failsafe is amazing
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12 RepliesHoly shit. The people in Joe's raid team are salty AF and total downers. I have to work with people like that but at least I'm getting paid. Put up with that shit on my free time in my hobby? PHUCK NO. Friends elevate Destiny to a higher level. The social aspect. Joe is obviously catering to a certain subscriber to his content. The mules that are addicted to the salt he dishes out. Anything higher than a 6 would have his fanbase going rabid and turning on him- AGAIN. And he knows it. IMO, Destiny 2 gets a rating of "entertaining solo" to "fun as hell with friends."
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I watched this earlier
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Completely agree with Joe
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3 RepliesI give it a 7 out of 10. Bare minimum and mediocrity shouldn't be praised.
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Edited by Lithe: 9/18/2017 3:14:29 AMJoe has become more and more of a joke since 2013. He didn't even do the raid or trials, he used a friends gameplay of the raid, pathetic.
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I think a 7/10 is more accurate, but eh. It's all opinion based.
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2 RepliesEdited by lediperehodov: 9/18/2017 1:08:01 AMI saw both of his reviews, and I never recall him playing the four bits of DLC for the first Destiny game because he clearly was too impatient to go through nope just play through one part and forget the DLC even exists and allow that to expand the lore and give other NPCs more growth. If he'd done that with the first one well I'd think he'd have more to work with. But that's just my thoughts. And I'm not ashamed to admit that Destiny 2 actually made me cry and the last game that made me cry was Horizon Zero Dawn (I recall Joe never reviewed that game, shame really) And I think Destiny 2 continues to expand on the first game, improve flaws from the first game. Anyway I'm rambling I'll stop now, but that was my two cents on this.
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2 RepliesHow can that fat pile of flesh even influence anyone's opinion on the game, " destiny 2 review" my ass. It's just all his personal opinions puked up into a video. I don't even know how he's so popular.
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All the stuff he says is true he just wants the game to be better, and he doesn't have low expectations.
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The fat guy with a bear joe plays with is an idiot. He literally spewed bull shit anytime he was shown in the video
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as long as we keep playing it nothing will change for the better...so itz gonna be for worst...
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I like his reviews but I wholeheartedly disagree with him on this one. 6/10 warranted for D1 but D2 is just so much better. I get where he is coming from because he is real big on single player campaigns but that's just not what this game is.