Halo pvp (really thinking of h2 and h3) was the most fun I have and probably will ever have had playing. Everyone had the same weapons. You had to make a push for power weapons, and then only 1 or 2 people could even have power weapons. It was balanced. It also required great aiming skill, grenade placement, and map awareness. That's why h2 and h3 dominated the mlg circuit at the time. Nothing was better or required more skill So if the game is becoming more like halo(granted, it has sprint, and other crazy shit) I will embrace it with open arms.

Yeah... it's a video game. They tend to have some things in common.

I see what you mean, that's literally what it looks like. We haven't played it yet, it might be even better. I'm also pretty sure we only got to see one map, so this post is more of a shot in the dark than a logical conclusion that pvp is doomed.

They looked nothing like Overwatch maps. I think you've come into the forums to be a little whiny b***h. Please vacate yourself and stop being a negative s**t.

Same seeing the gameplay it was easily big enough for 6v6 the 4v4 for that game mode makes sense but something like clash, control or rift 4v4 is going to be empty, less random factors that makes 6v6 right now fun even if laggy and sticky's. I can deal with the overwatch style looks and other stuff, its kinda still destiny but not, creates a different feel for better or worse depending on preference. Main thing is 4v4 only for what? competitive esports? Sure would be great for the game but if it's for lag then no because it's still p2p connections and 3v3 already lags now. Specials in heavy slot this I hate so much, Using 2 different ranged primaries is a new way to play or old way since that's what initial destiny alpha was going to be but they changed it to primary and secondary which made it pretty successful and alot of fun whether you used sniper, fusion, shotgun or sidearm. At least give us options to use primary with primary or primary and special. Leave heavy alone. Balancing is a hard act and hard to please everyone but this new layout with only power weapons and super to OHK and slower ttk with guns will be less fun than destiny now, grenades can't kill anymore apparently, not even a decent incindenary grenade. Right now having special and heavy creates different factors and surprises also with the unique abilities and supers, yes some are annoying but always different and many ways to play. I don't see that with the new changes looks too passive, if a good grenade can't ohk anymore and two people are pushing me with slower ttk with no weapons like special the player can just run through the grenade maybe even with power weapon ready. Right now I can cut one off with grenade maybe even kill him then primary or special it out with the 2nd player and win or trade to get the double or get cleaned up by a 3rd lol Destiny looked more fun but since its new and only having watched a little gameplay, things could change hopefully for the beta. 😅

Looked like Overwatch on a Cod map to me. Lol. Not sure I liked the very very slow time to kill.

Agree

[quote]looks like Call of Duty on an Overwatch map. I am not impressed. edit: what i meant to say was that it looks like Halo, in a Call of Duty game mode, on an Overwatch map. heh.[/quote] This. I've been saying it since the first game I've watched.

Because we saw one map, one gamemode, and a fraction of what's new in terms of weapons and abilities?

The difference being that Overwatch, Call of Duty, and Halo all have standardized weapons. The performance of Destiny's weapons is determined by RNG perk rolls.

I'm actually sort of happy for the changes made to crucible. Destiny 1, by the time of Rise of Iron, got too fast 4 me. Titan skating, warlock skating, hunter shadesteps. I prefer slower shooters (R6 Siege, Counter Strike, Overwatch) so I'm happy to see how these changes work in the beta/full release. However, I think they need to include some 6v6 playlists or game modes. I can't quite see combined arms working with 4v4 (if they even brought that mode back, which would be cool cause of the tanks). Don't see why we can't have both. The new countdown mode looks perfect for 4v4, but I don't see control, rift, or team death match working out the same way. Hopefully we get those 6v6's back in some shape or form (because too often I have 4-5 friends on at time and we can't do anything but crucible).

It looks to be more competitive and team based. If that's not for you, it's not for you. It's for me though. I'm happy Bungie made this move.

Completely agree Skylanders comes to mind.

The noob tube is coming to Destiny..... Prepare.