Just like I predicted, nerfing the Clever Dragon did nothing in the great scheme of things. The whiner crowd moved on to other weapons to complain about, just like I said they would? We lost a great weapon and gained nothing in return. We now have another gun that's less viable in PvP and useless in PvE. I say bring back it's normal ammo and rate of fire. I don't care about he HCR perk, but the other nerfs just killed it. I just don't see the purpose of killing good guns to appease the players who are never going to happy anyway.
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9 RepliesIt's still useable though.
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3 RepliesEdited by Thurs: 3/5/2017 7:39:09 PMI thought 24 bullets was low. Mine has Braced frame and 18 makes it pretty tough to use. I will win my gun fight and be immediately picked off while I reload.
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Yea bungie overdid it as usual- they should have just pulled the range back a little and nerfed the flinch. They didnt want it to be balanced, they just wanted a meta shift to artificially extend playtime.
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3 RepliesThere are a ton of weapons that could use a good buff. Hand cannons right now aren't OP, but everything else is definitely under powered.
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2 RepliesFunny how clever dragon was a primary that people used and yet it was nerfed.....
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1 ReplyIts not coming back stop whining and move on
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3 RepliesAll was needed was a flinch nerf, now the gun has the range of a handcannon and always gets outshot.
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It just needs its ammo back. It's in a good spot with it's TTK but that ammo nerf is just.... dumb.
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3 RepliesIt. Was. One. Frame.
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I'm ok with the fire rate nerf. They just went a bit over board with the ammo change. No reason to use it now over the blind perdition.
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No, the TTK from Clever Dragon Archtypes was to low. Btw was the Weapon overused and to strong at crit damage for the lowest category of Impact by Pulse Rifles.
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1 ReplyPeople used the clever dragon in pve?
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2 RepliesReading through some replies here, I'm a bit confused... Did the waltz not receive a nerf like the CD and Malok? Although I would assume it has, after going through the patch notes, bungie only talks about the malok and the clever drain being nerfed... Can anyone shed some clearer light in this?
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4 RepliesOr use the waltz
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They can bring back the ammo capacity, but the rate of fire nerf was necessary. Even without HCR, the flinch caused you to miss perfectly aimed shots if you were being flinched by it.
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We gained more diverse primaries. At least my lobbies aren't all handcannons yet
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1 ReplyUmm it still wrecks. I use mine with perfect balance and, it still shoots like a laser and, has 24 rounds.
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It is still pretty good.
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Nope never
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6 RepliesI'm happy.
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2 RepliesEdited by Dano2point0: 3/3/2017 9:39:50 PMIn typical Sandbox fashion, they went overboard and decided to reduce its effectiveness on multiple fronts (Flinch+Mag Size+Time-to-kill) rather than focus on the most common complaint (Flinch). It's left the archetype in a completely inferior state compared to the next fastest pulse rifle. They need to revert the changes made to magazine size and time-to-kill. At the very least, time-to-kill should be brought back to .80 sec to give that archetype a distinction from the next fastest at .87 sec.
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The natural enemy of clever dragon was palindrome now its archetype rules in pvp.