Community: Buff thorn!
B: Ok, done
Community Nerf last word!
B: Ok
Community: Nerf shotguns!
B: Ok, *nerfs them 2929193 times*
Community: Nerf Snipers!
B: Ok done
Community: Nerf subclasses!
B: Done
Community: Nerf Evades
B: done
Community: Nerf NLB
B: ok!
Community: Nerf vex, suros, Mida, clever dragon, Matador, Stormcaller, Juggernaut
B: Aight!
Community: nerf skorris and sidearms
B:Ok!
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Don't ever say that Bungie doesn't listen to the community, all those nerfs I listed above are cause by the community, and Bungie listened.
But, Bungie is listening to the wrong side of the community and are balancing the game according to ONLY one game mode, Trials.
They listen to crybabies who whine nerf on forums because X weapon/ability killed them, they should listen to people who know how to play and counter things.
Skorris is a prime example of this, People who complained about it got it nerfed, because they were camping with snipers/shotguns and couldn't push the enemy team and stop them from building supers!
No Land beyond was once the joke exotic and the worst one ever, now it's getting nerfed, because of Trials. Bungie nerfed everything in this game according to Trials and forgot PVE and normal crucible.
Bungie, you're doing it wrong.
This game was much better in Y1, Primaries' TTK was low and they actually countered special weapons, primaries were used more often, until they nerfed every good primary, which led to a sniper/shotgun/sidearm meta which led to a special ammo nerf.
GG Bungie, you -blam!-ed up really bad.
Edit: I know some of you say that Bungie doesn't listen most of the time, that's why I said they're doing it wrong and are listening to the wrong side of the community, that's why the game is becoming worse by time.
Edit 2: Uhh..Trending?
Edit 3: Op isn't here anymore, thanks for all the nice/sh*t comments everyone!
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Sounds like u nailed it.
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4 RepliesFusion rifles...
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Your spot on with this post. Ppl in this community have gaming alzhiemers where they can't effin remember what they did yesterday.
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BABABABAB! Not entirely true. No one asked for the special change, the regen debacle, or the truth and Universal needs.
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People used NLB in PvE?
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I'm gonna blame deej's over hyped weekly updates. People were expecting more for something he was dangling in our faces for over a month
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1 ReplyHaven't played in a couple months is it good?
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I think the last patch and the next one are steps in the right direction towards a balances game, and I honestly like the skorri rework. Hopefully they increase the range on it though, now that it requires fuel to keep it going.
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You forgot about Pocket Infinity. Also, NLB is a great PvE weapon...said no one ever. I do agree that almost, if not all nerfs, have been because of PvP (Trials wasn't around in Y1). That is because Thralls don't complain on the forums. Weapons balancing is strictly for the PvP experience. It's not simple to balance range, impact, flinch, rate of fire and stability, especially when dealing with decimals. Specials are meant to deal more damage, that's what makes them "special". Decreasing SA didn't work, reducing the frequency didn't work, adjust mobility didn't work. Taking away ammo when you die? Seems to be working. Players are actually using primaries. The sandbox team may (cough, does) suck at playing this game but the community and streamers are the best and most vocal at testing "real world game play. Just wish they would leave the PvE experience alone.
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2 RepliesGood post with some great responses. In all honesty we need to accept what this game has truly become. What has it become you ask? It's a game that has gradually been "dumbed down" to make it a casual friendly gaming experience. A game where you can pick it up from time to time do some activities, and get some loot. There is no beginning, middle or true end to Destiny. That's because there isn't a story. There is no consistent multiplayer PVP experience because of lag and weapon imbalance. We are not on a quest so save humanity or to become legend. We are simply running around shooting things. You know with most games you complete them, you're done. Not with Destiny. There isn't a conclusion or climax. What is Destiny truly you ask? Destiny is a time sink. The gun mechanics are second to none. That's it that's all. If you for one second think otherwise then so be it. This is my opinion. Think about what I just wrote before putting on your fanboy pyjamas.
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bungie has literally created there own downfall
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Not all the changes were because of Trials lol. Shotguns destroyed every playlist other than Trials for 2 entire years...
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Oh lord I have never thought that the NLB would actually get a nerf not in a life time. This puny exotic now is getting a nerf because Bungie nerfed all other exotics. [spoiler]What has this game come to[/spoiler]
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1. I realize that bungie listens to "us". But there are two major problems. They just listen to whiners and those who complain for nerfs. The other problem is that they listen and approach the problem stupidly. They ruin everything that needs slight adjustment. They don't think about wha they're doing. 2. Stop making edits that you're trending. The majority of us are reading your post because it's trending. We know it's trending. Don't need to point it out.
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I need one must have a 1.3 or better I am a 1.46 with a 2.0 message Lattz for inv
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4 RepliesEdited by SKASTOGER: 2/26/2017 8:53:38 PMSoooo, [spoiler]i'am virgin, AMA[/spoiler]
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It's nerf or nothing booii
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I'm ok with them stomping pvp into a shit pile. I mean, if that's what pvp players want then sure, go ahead, make it as slow paced as possible. What i'm NOT ok with is these pvp nerfs infecting pve and just killing that fun factor pve always enjoyed. When the great TTK nerf hit along with all old gear being left behind it made it a lot less fun. Also, i'm not exaggerating: almost every single patch or hotfix has broken multiple things on accident. Who wants to bet that this "fix of a fix" that they plan to deploy at some point in the future(??) will inadvertently break something else? PvE players are just tired of the nerfs. No matter how small or large the nerf, it's the principle. A small portion of the player base has bungie's ear and are dictating how the entire game plays. That sound right?
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[quote]Community: Buff thorn! B: Ok, done Community Nerf last word! B: Ok Community: Nerf shotguns! B: Ok, *nerfs them 2929193 times* Community: Nerf Snipers! B: Ok done Community: Nerf subclasses! B: Done Community: Nerf Evades B: done Community: Nerf NLB B: ok! Community: Nerf vex, suros, Mida, clever dragon, Matador, Stormcaller, Juggernaut B: Aight! Community: nerf skorris and sidearms B:Ok! ________ Don't ever say that Bungie doesn't listen to the community, all those nerfs I listed above are cause by the community, and Bungie listened. But, Bungie is listening to the wrong side of the community and are balancing the game according to ONLY one game mode, Trials. They listen to crybabies who whine nerf on forums because X weapon/ability killed them, they should listen to people who know how to play and counter things. Skorris is a prime example of this, People who complained about it got it nerfed, because they were camping with snipers/shotguns and couldn't push the enemy team and stop them from building supers! No Land beyond was once the joke exotic and the worst one ever, now it's getting nerfed, because of Trials. Bungie nerfed everything in this game according to Trials and forgot PVE and normal crucible. Bungie, you're doing it wrong. This game was much better in Y1, Primaries' TTK was low and they actually countered special weapons, primaries were used more often, until they nerfed every good primary, which led to a sniper/shotgun/sidearm meta which led to a special ammo nerf. GG Bungie, you -blam!-ed up really bad. Edit: I know some of you say that Bungie doesn't listen most of the time, that's why I said they're doing it wrong and are listening to the wrong side of the community, that's why the game is becoming worse by time. Edit 2: Uhh..Trending?[/quote] lol
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Do not shoot, but listen.
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[quote] Don't ever say that Bungie doesn't listen to the community, all those nerfs I listed above are cause by the community, and Bungie listened. But, Bungie is listening to the wrong side of the community and are balancing the game according to ONLY one game mode, Trials. They listen to crybabies who whine nerf on forums because X weapon/ability killed them, they should listen to people who know how to play and counter things. [/quote] 💯
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[quote]Bungie is listening to the wrong side of the community and are balancing the game according to ONLY one game mode, Trials...Bungie nerfed everything in this game according to Trials and [b]forgot[/b] PVE...Bungie, you're doing it wrong.[/quote] I think Stanley Kirk Burrell said it best when he spoke the immortal words, "Too legit. Too legit to quit"
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2 RepliesProblem is that they listen to the vocal minority, the ones that only care about pvp. The ones that nerd-rage and throw tantrums on the forums. Maybe 25% of the entire community. The rest of us, the vast majority that like Destiny for its pve content sit back and get bent over time and time again, watching our favorite guns and exotic equipment get neutered left and right. The problem is that Bungie has repeatedly focused on the [u]wrong[/u] aspect of their game. The only thing that ever made Destiny unique or interesting was it's pve experience. They've all but abandoned that. Pvp shooters are a dime a dozen, and Destiny has always been extremely mediocre in the pvp department. Wouldn't it make sense to let the one unique aspect of your game be its centerpiece?
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They actually did listen to us. It's the communities fault the way the weapons/gear is now.
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6 RepliesEdited by MistaCloudStrife: 2/26/2017 8:40:14 PMCommunity: Nerf high impact autorifles. B: Ok, done. ALL autorifles nerfed. Community: Nerf last word and Thorn. B: Ok, ALL handcannons nerfed. Plus fusions... for reasons. Community: Nirwins mercy is too strong. B: Ok, Blanket nerf to high impact pulses! Community: Nerf 1KYS B: Ok, ALL snipers are slower!! Community: Nerf high range shotguns. B: Done, ALL SHOTGUNS handle slower!! Community: This is a pretty fun META Bungie! Thanks! B: Done! Hunter throwing knife and trip mines are done for! Fact is, even in the rare instances when Bungie DOES listen to us... THEY DON'T LISTEN TO US. And plenty of the times when they implemented nerfs, they supplied a good old "popularity graph" to go along with the nerf. They were going to nerf it without community outrage towards a specific weapon. Fact that they nerfed things like throwing knife, trip mines and most recently Truth, is proof of that. Noone complained, yet the nerfs still came.