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Edited by Maestro25:
1/29/2017 4:23:40 PM
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Buff Shoulder Charge.
Nerfing Shoulder Charge had the EXACT reaction I predicted it would... everyone simply switched to Juggernaut. That was the most obvious outcome ever. And NOW we get people whining about Juggernaut all day long. Let me guess, they want more Striker nerfs? I say NO!
Make Shoulder Charge great again dammit. It was fun while also very bad for your KD. I remember so many people running gung-ho trying to tackle people and getting a shotgun in the face. THAT was balanced.
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10 RepliesEdited by ol azo: 1/29/2017 7:41:33 PMI guess I can kind of understand the tracking nerf because it was a little subjective. But the damage, distance, and start up nerf made no sense to me. You run up to someone for a... for a chance to kill someone. Wtf? And now that it takes forever to start up, it's way worse for pve and it's still way harder to use in pvp. It was already a risk to constantly be sprinting around in pvp, and in pve you could be using that time to shoot.
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9 RepliesYou mean the buff to jug shield allowing it to proc in air is why everyone switched..
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Edited by GiveMeYourRage: 1/30/2017 9:38:05 AMShoulder charge is still extremely good if youre smart about it, it doesnt need a buff
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36 RepliesNo. No class should have a unlimited ohk ability along with a artifact that makes it even better.
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[spoiler]NO[/spoiler] you know what else will be gung-ho if they buff shoulder charge?.. Shourlder charge you dumbass.
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Shoulder charve is still very good. What made it extremely annoying was the tracking. It wasnt op by any means the tracking was just a bit broken. I could just sprint in circles and push the button and it would hit someone behind me lol
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I just shoulder charged someone off a sparrow yesterday..I'd say ts fine where it is lol
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I only got shoulder charged like 3 times before the nerf. Once though was on pantheon and I blinked straight up and was above the bridge and some guy shoulder charged me from ground level. That tracking was ridiculous. Still, didn't happen all that often so I got over it.
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Keep it where it's at and make a shoulder charge cost melee energy.
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Use mks and shoulder charge is fine
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1 ReplyMy ideas for a shoulder charge balance would be to increase the attack speed or how fast you release the charge and to take away ALL tracking from it. Shoulder charge will go directly in front of your character and have a range of about 6 meters, since the problems with it is the tracking I think not having it would probably fix that.
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No shoulder charge needs to stay as is. Or make it the melee so it's forced to have a cool down enough of I'm a titan I have two different melees. Right now the only cooldown it has is how fast you can go from using it to start running again. If it's forced to have a cooldown then juggernaut can be forced into the stop shoulder charge use to be an take it's spot opening up a new perk slot for something different. Don't ask for a buff ask for a change don't ask for nerfs ask for a fix.
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Shoulder charge isn't that hard to counter, I'm a titan and I don't think it's broken or extremely underpowered. It's our best melee, the warlock has insane range and good perks on their melee, the hunter has x2 grenades, a throwing knife, or long range blink strike. The tracking isn't as crazy as you think we still have to aim at you're body to hit you. Plus a shotgun is an easy counter, a shoulder charge is very easy to predict and not hard to play against. Enjoy the game and stop crying.
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1 ReplyEdited by Snub: 1/30/2017 7:38:41 PMNerf jug, unstopable and make strikes wont 1 shot supers!!! My storm always gets taken out and i try shottoing it in storm but not work. It kill me faster and is unbalansed. Nerf lighning nade make it 5 shot to esy to get kiled. remove nobackupplans, twigligt, armentum, and fedback fense. Buf stormtrance damage so one hit as strike. Make landfall 3x linjer then FIST of havoc. [spoiler]Sorry i forgot the sarcasm tag.[/spoiler]
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The reason for all the salt with SC was because Warlock melee and Throwing knife got nerfed and SC didn't at the same time. Jugg is not hard to kill but SC was when the other classes got nerfed. SC or Jugg is not the problem.....the problem is that bungie selectively nerfs things makeing others the top of the ecosystem. Remove one apex predator and a lower lever predator will take over.
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It's called peregrine greaves
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Peregrine greaves should grant juggernaut........mwahahahaa
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3 RepliesThe only thing bungie needs to do to shoulder charge is remove tracking thats it.
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You see.... if they hadn't done the original buff that increased its tracking, we would have never had this problem.
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2 RepliesThe tracking was way OP.
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2 RepliesBuff Head & Shoulders
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5 RepliesJugg useage didn't come from the shoulder charge nerf it came from the jugg buff and titan skating. Making the fastest movement system in the game have one of the strongest defense skills in the close quarters shotgun meta is a no brainer that people would use it
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Lol. Good one. Now that shoulder charge requires some level of skill, people resort to the next best thing; jugg and matador. If I play striker, I use shoulder charge. And I don't see why it should be as easy as it use to be. No buff
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They need to restore the animation to shoulder charge. By reducing it they managed to cripple it b cause anyone can punch it as its being activated. They knew this would hurt SC but they didn't care and went overboard.
