Has there ever been a point in this game where warlocks have felt weak? Titans had a few moments like that with things like their melee, hunters have definitely had their weak points especially with the incessant nerfs towards Bladedancers, yet whenever I see warlocks or play my warlock there seems to be no downside to playing it. High armour might seem desirable, but it doesn't really give all that much of an advantage in the grand scheme of things. High agility may help with those strafes every now and again and helps hunters get that little bit higher with their jumps. But high recovery, that's a whole other story. The difference between having low recovery and high recovery is quite ridiculous, even if I have max recovery on my Titan it doesn't seem to go near as fast as a warlock's recovery speed - I can damage a warlock and there health is back instantly. It's no surprise high recovery is usually banned in sweats. Dat melee tho. Warlocks still have that ridiculous melee that doesn't rely on an actual collision, rather you get this huge surface area melee that never seems to miss or shortstop, unlike that of the Hunter and Titan variant. This is especially evident with the stormcaller melee which seems to hit from unimaginable ranges even when that warlock is barely looking at you. Which brings me to stormcallers and their incredibly easy to use subclass. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO USING IT. They essentially get their own fist of havoc, and don't worry you don't have to have that perk active just pick up The Impossible Machines because you don't even need to consider any other exotics for the stormcaller. And of course that gives you access to ionic blink which can be spammed in case you're in a panic during stormtrance. But why would you even be in a panic? This super has an incredible range with a fast time to kill, and can also chain to other players while doing so, making killing giant groups quicker than using a fist of havoc; even more so since no one can see with all the bloody lightning covering the screen. Even forgetting stormcallers, void walkers are probably the strongest subclass at the moment: warlock melee, great grenades, projectile Fist of Havoc, blink and crazy synergy between perks. Even the warlock jump is annoying in PvP. That initial burst gives them an insane amount of sudden speed and distance, and even if they don't use it for that quick getaway they just float above doorways for 30 seconds with their glide. I may come off as particularly salty right now, maybe I am, who knows. But I know for sure I don't have fun playing against warlocks; it's simply tedious. Not saying hunters and titans don't have their powerful traits, I definitely want to see some sort of change to the juggernaut shield and maybe change the burn on the sunbreaker melee. But warlocks are still the crux of the problem for me; simply obnoxious players with the easiest abilities to execute.