With the release of Hard Mode Wrath of the Machine, all weapons are now available to use.Two years and four Raids later we have gotten our fair share of some beastly weapons! Of all the Raid weapons in the game, I think it is fair to say that the weapons mentioned below are the best weapons of their class regardless of relevancy.
Raid Exotic: Vex Mythoclast (VoG)
Scout Rifle: Vision of Confluence (VoG)
Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM)
Handcannon: Fatebringer (VoG)
Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE)
Sniper: Black Hammer (CE)
Fusion Rifle: Praetorian Foil (VoG)
Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG)
Rocket Launcher: Hunger of Crota (CE)
Machine Gun: Quillum's Terminus (KF)
Sidearm: N/A (only one)
Sword: N/A (none)
Relic: Ascendant Sword (CE)
Do you agree? Comment below!
[b]EDIT:[/b] Out of all weapons mentioned above, the Shotgun was the toughest choice, as Quantiplasm is just a fantastic Shotgun and fun to use! Scouts were also a tough choice as both Fang and Chaos Dogma are also top tier Scouts. Vision seemed so much more useful with Full Auto when you wanted to be lazy, combined well with Zen Moment, had the some great sights and covered 2/4 forever present elemental shields at the time (Wizards and Centurions). The rest were pretty much clear cut winners in my opinion!
[b]EDIT 2:[/b] Is Genesis Chain really that good? I thought it was just the Small Arms modifier blinding my judgement as it has been active in Heroics every week since the Raid launched. I haven't tried it in PvP on the basis of High Impact ARs being the worst weapon archetypes in the game currently. In all my Raid runs with groups from LFG I have rarely seen other's use it... Better try it again may have missed something. After Abyss Defiant, Anguish is trash and Epilogue was never really great in PvE like most HRoF AR's.
As for Corrective Measure, I was never fond of low impact Machine Guns and assumed the community was not either as you rarely see anyone use them, may it be Patrol, Strikes, Nightfall, Raids or PvP. Quillum's seemed a more logical choice as it was basically the only MG used in PvP in Year Two. Cocoon negated MG's awful reload speeds in PvE allowing to continue DPS rather than lose DPS through reloading by switching/stowing. Still not saying Corrective Measure was bad though, I did use it quite often.
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Fusion rifle should be vex
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16 RepliesFatebringer, black hammer, foil, and hunger are the only guns that were better than Wrath of Machine guns. Dogma is a much better Scout than VoC, what just cuz it had solar burn? Stats and perks don't compare at all. And why would anyone choose terminus over the new Machine gun? Afraid to leave out KF? lol. Machine gun race is as lopsided as handcannon.
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4 RepliesAgree with the whole list except for abyss defiant. Genesis chain is a far superior AR in my opinion.
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12 RepliesWHY IS NO ONE ELSE ANGRY ABOUT PUTTING ABYSS DEFIANT ON THIS LIST INSTEAD OF GENESIS CHAIN????
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IF MATERIA is gross when it comes time to dps a boss. For example, on Vosiks I had a friend just sit up front and unload on him during the entire damage phase without having to reload.
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Here's my opinions: Relic: agies Exotic: vex mythoclast (before it became inconsistent af/outbreak prime Primaries Auto: Genesis chain Pulse: Steel medulla Scout: vision of confluence/chaos dogma Hand cannon: fatebringer Specials: Shotgun:quantiplasm/found verdict Fusion: praetorian foil Sniper: black hammer (prenerf and post nerf) Side arm: only one option Heavies: Rocket: hunger of Crota Machine gun: corrective measure/ WotM machine gun (forgot name) Sword: why is this not a thing yet Bungie
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2 RepliesRelic... VoG Raid exotic.... VoG Scout... VoG Pulse... VoG Handcannon... VoG Autorifle... VoG Sniper... C.E. Fusion... C.E. Shotgun... VoG Rocket launcher... VoG Machine gun...Kf Armor...VoG Class item... VoG
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Necrochasm
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1 ReplyEdited by Avarice: 10/20/2016 5:31:53 PMI disagree with machine gun, I say corrective measure, also I am yet to play the hard raid, so I can't say about the pulse rifle, but the timepiece was pretty darn good, also the aegis is a wayyyy better relic
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I never used Abyss Defiant after it failed to stun the first three wizards I tried it on. Way to inconsistent. Genesis Chain is consistent and effective in Fallen areas. A much better gun. Otherwise I agree with the post.
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Abyss defiant is one of the worst auto rifles of all time. Absolutely horrible weapon. After that, there's no way I was going to finish your list. You get zero respect for such an egregious error so early
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[quote]With the release of Hard Mode Wrath of the Machine, all weapons are now available to use.Two years and four Raids later we have gotten our fair share of some beastly weapons! Of all the Raid weapons in the game, I think it is fair to say that the weapons mentioned below are the best weapons of their class regardless of relevancy. Relic: Ascendant Sword (CE) Raid Exotic: Vex Mythoclast (VoG) Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE) Scout Rifle: Vision of Confluence (VoG) Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM) Handcannon: Fatebringer (VoG) Sniper: Black Hammer (CE) Fusion Rifle: Praetorian Foil (VoG) Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG) Rocket Launcher: Hunger of Crota (CE) Machine Gun: Quillum's Terminus (KF) Sidearm: N/A (only one) Sword: N/A (none) Do you agree? Comment below! EDIT: Out of all weapons mentioned above, the Shotgun was the toughest choice, as Quantiplasm is just a fantastic Shotgun and fun to use! The rest were pretty much clear cut winners in my opinion![/quote]
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Ahem! Black Hammer pre nerf. Please continue.
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Edited by how: 10/20/2016 5:13:46 PMI agree with most of that but the oversoul edict was a better pulse rifle or the timepiece
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1 ReplyThe steel medulla went straight in the bin.
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3 RepliesEdited by adder3: 10/20/2016 4:34:48 PMOk Abyss defiant has the slowest ttk in the game and low overall damage output.... Athens epilogue was doctrine before the doctrine... Hunger of crota is one of the most overrated weapons in destiny history... cluster bombs don't hit anything and don't do much damage (go test them) It has shit capacity and mediocre velocity /blast radius... One of the lowest damage outputs of any RL Hezens vengeance has the highest damage out put of any RL not named gjallarhorn...thanks to mini nirv The timepiece shredded in pvp and pve and had element damage, I'll wait until I get the new raid pulse before I decide this one... I agree with everything else tho....
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I think oversoul edict was the best pulse out of raids, maybe the best of all time? It is basically a grasp with guaranteed god rolls (full auto, counterbalance) but timepiece and the WOTM pulse are pretty good as well.
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I'd sub out Abyss Defiant for Genesis Chain, and the Steele Medula for Praedyth's Timepiece.
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Relic has to be the VoG one. So much fun! Others seem like decent choices.
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Abyss defiant??? Ever heard of genesis chain??
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2 RepliesEdited by Il TOMMY lI: 10/20/2016 4:21:02 PMSpot on with most things but..... Relic: Aegis shield its a titan bubble, nova bomb and sword all in one. Whats not to like about this. Auto rifle: genesis chain hands down outclasses abyss defiant. Hc rounds and firefly imo its the best pve primary since fatebringer. Pulse rifle: what about Praedyth's Timepiece. Arc damage and arguably one of the best pvp weapons in destiny
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The vault relic I think is the obvious choice High damage melee attack, massive ranged attack, and can create a defensive bubble. How do you beat that? Also, personally a fan of the timepiece for pulse, and the ether nova is a great fusion (but never had the foul)
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Before All the nerfs or after? Because the VOG had some of the best weapons especially before they were nerfed, I know people seem to forget that.
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Edited by Void: 10/20/2016 4:32:08 PMRelic, being the ascendant sword.. ehhhh.. personally thought that the Relic Aegis in VOG was way better, shoot bosses with a ball of light and make a shield for your team.. Not to mention ITS ALSO A SWORD IN ITSELF.. I find that pretty amazing..
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Why not make a poll for each weapon type and let people decide, I think it's a good enough list just a few changes for me personally :)
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I'll agree with all but 2 the auto rifle should be Genesis and the machine gun should be corrective measure (pre MG nerf 100 round drum)