[quote]handcannon: fatebringer[/quote] hate that gun, so over rated

Touch of Malice ftw! *drops mic. On foot.

I once had two praetorian foils drop at the same time lol

With the release of Hard Mode Wrath of the Machine, all weapons are now available to use.Two years and four Raids later we have gotten our fair share of some beastly weapons! Of all the Raid weapons in the game, I think it is fair to say that the weapons mentioned below are the best weapons of their class regardless of relevancy. [b]So I assume you mean Raid only at this point, to clarify do you mean at their best performance point ever or general utility inside their raid? In PvP and PvE or PvE activities besides raids?[/b] Raid Exotic: Vex Mythoclast (VoG) [b]In its time yes, absolutely. After accidental and deliberate nerfs, debatable. Inside its own raid, nah, excluding Nechrocasm because it took too long to be buffed into remotely efficient and effective status in its own raid much less anything else, the other two ultimately perform better in their own raid.[/b] Scout Rifle: Vision of Confluence (VoG) [b]Yes, light level is the only deterrent to this gun. Bungie broke the mold with this one.[/b] Pulse Rifle: Steel Medulla (WotM) [b]Excluding exotics, debatable, within its own raid yes, outside of Raids...nah. Just have to stick with year 1 Raid Pulses. Even at a time when Pulses were not considered a good class, between the Elemental Burn and quality of the guns they were quite serviceable[/b] Handcannon: Fatebringer (VoG) [b]Honestly, it was pretty decent for a lot of things, jury's still out on the newest one in terms of its own raid. It's definitely a contest between the first and last raid handcannons either way. If you only compared them in pvp terms right now the newer one would win because of the global Band-Aid Ghost Bullet nerf, if at its peak Fatebringer might edge it out.[/b] Auto Rifle: Abyss Defiant (CE) [b]I'd say close call between this and the current one in terms of their own raids but probably give it to this one. Now if you swapped them the other would be much more useful in CE than Abyss would be in WM, light level notwithstanding. PvPwise I'd give it to Abyss it wasn't utterly terrible at a time when most autorifles were. The rest, aye.[/b] Sniper: Black Hammer (CE) [b]In their own raids, hands down. That said Praedyth's Revenge is in my top 3 favourite Destiny snipers, though mainly for pvp-Blackhammer isn't. Still it's hard to go wrong with the prototype of the Black Spindle. I actually quite enjoy the current raid sniper and liked the Oryx one as well about equally in general practice but they damn near pulled a VoC here.[/b] Fusion Rifle: Praetorian Foil (VoG) [b]Honestly a lifesaver at oracles, but they've all been fairly decent, metabalance issues aside. This one probably takes it just due to how it melted oracles, don't think any of the rest have quite had the pivotal impact on raid encounters that it has.[/b] Shotgun: Found Verdict (VoG) [b]Hard call. For its own raid this and the most recent one are pretty close, outside it I really enjoyed the CE shotgun for decimating minotaurs, pvp wise I don't care for shotguns period.[/b] Rocket Launcher: Hunger of Crota (CE) [b]The most recent two very underwhelming, the first two tied for me. I like the CE and VoG rockets equally. Gally this Gally that, but for anyone who didn't get it off the bat either of these did work.[/b] Machine Gun: Quillum's Terminus (KF) [b]I will only say this: I miss Jolder's Hammer and the un-nerfed Fieldscout. This gun was the closest thing to it, and in terms of own raid potential tied with the VoG machine gun. The CE was whelming. The newest one is a satisying legendary version of SGA, but the steady pace of the heavy hitter archetype just feels so much more cathartic. If you can get a nice target lined up though, the newest one may be a surprisingly fun melting cannon.[/b] Sidearm: N/A (only one) [b]alas[/b] Sword: N/A (none) [b]alas[/b] Relic: Ascendant Sword (CE) [b]Disagree, there's really no qualification here other than VoG broke the mold when they made it in a lot of ways and the Relic is one of the best examples. Gloryhounds may love smacking a giant alien in the shin with a sword, but the embodiment of being a Guardian; shielding your allies, saving them from Darkness, blasting down the guards of terrible foes and smashing hordes of alien cyborgs with this Aegis of Light. That was what being a Guardian was all about. Distracting Oryx and stealing his daughters' spells, sure that's good for a laugh. Shock Cannons and Siva Bombs, eh, at least most everyone gets a chance to chuck or shoot one. But the Aegis, that is one Relic Bungie will have a hard time topping. [/b] Anywho that's my opinion so like cheers.

Now let's talk about the worst! (PVE only) Exotic: necrocasm (CE) Hand cannon: Zaouli's Bane (KF) Scout: Doom of Chelchis (KF) Auto rifle: Anguish of Drystan (KF) Pulse rifle: predethys timepiece (VOG) Sniper rifle: predethys revenge (VOG) Shotgun: Sword breaker (CE) Fusion rifle: midha's reckoning (KF) Machine gun: Song of Ir Yût (CE) Rocket launcher: Kings fall rocket launcher (forgot what it's called) (I changed the rocket launcher)

Smite of merain was and is the only pulse to have firefly, steel medula has special secret round :/

I would recommend trying Genesis chain again. It is great in both PvP and PvE! Definitely the best raid AR.

Corrective Measure is the only correct answer for raid machine guns.

Relic: VoG Relic Hand Cannon: Fatebringer Pulse Rifle: Smite of Merain Scout Rifle: VoC closely followed by Fang of Ir Yût Auto: Genesis Chain Sniper: Black Hammer closely followed by Praedyth's Revenge Shotgun: Found Verdict Fusion: Praetorian Foil(You Ain't Never Gonna Get It) Machine Gun: The original Corrective Measure Rocket: Hunger of Crota Exotic: Necrochasm because Nechrochasm is, always has been, and always will be bae

The Ascendant Sword is more powerful I guess, but the Shield was more fun to use

Best Raid : Auto : Genesis Chain Pulse : Oversould Edict Scout : Vision of Confluence Handcannon : Fatebringer Shotgun : Quantiplasm Sniper : Black Hammer Fusion : Foil HMG : Quillim's Terminus Rocker Launcher : Hezen Vengeance Exotic : Vex Mythoclast Titan armor : King's Fall or VoG Hunter armor : VoG or Wrath Warlock armor : VoG Door opener : Crota's End First boss : Vault of Glass Travel encounter : Wrath Final boss : Wrath Overall favorite raid : Wrath Overall favorite armor : VoG Overall favorite weapons : Tie - Vog and Wrath.

The vog weapons. No contest. If you say otherwise you're dumb.