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Edited by Orpheus49:
10/12/2016 7:59:03 PM
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Shotguns have pretty bad range, you just had low hp
Next time you get one shot from across the room, check to see if you took damage first, most likely you did
its basically an insurance policy to insure the one shot, because other wise you might need to follow up melee, and if you time it wrong, thats a sticky nade/fusion/other shotty right to the face
Remember to pepper the prey shotty warriors
Edit: User KSigKid had these words and vid to share in the matter
[quote]I'm so glad I made this video over the weekend. I feel like it can be shown in nearly every shotgun discussion to show proof about where these guns actually OHKO. The visual proof (first and third person view) is definitely there for everyone to see. The REAL question is if it changes anyone's mind who is set on one side of the argument or the other.
[url]https://youtu.be/pNmPVnedMHk[/url][/quote]
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5 RepliesShotguns have overwhelmingly changed pvp in destiny. The fact that many people use shotguns as a crutch Is disappointing. Have any of you ever gone into rumble? It's hard to use a sniper against 5 other shotguns.j I would prefer if they weren't buffed
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15 RepliesI wonder how many people have never played any other shooter besides Destiny and actually know what shotgun range in a game is
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5 RepliesYea no. Shotguns have some pretty baller range
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helpful knowing the spread has an effect w uni man. good work i bet this helps because of the update that nerfed it
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Still doesn't address the issue of shotguns taking over since everything got nerfed hard.
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13 RepliesI have a video on my Xbox Of me at full health getting 1 shot by a shotgun from an absolutely absurd distance. I disagree with you
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Absolutely! I mostly use them at the 2-4 HP range after hitting them with a grenade or primary to finish them off
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8 RepliesOh no they are OP, I can tell you because I've been using them more and more in regular Crucible, honestly Bungie knows shit about balance and every year it shows more and more.
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14 RepliesShut up dude everyone knows shotguns are OP as -blam!- in crucible. Stop trolling.
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Yes and no, most shotguns do have bad range. But some shotguns break the mold and have max shotgun range. Which is a little unfair to the noobs. Noobs as in they don't know how to counter a warrior. And before you say anything. I think most shotguns need a range buff. I also want most primary's to get buffed. But that's just me.
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8 RepliesFusion rifles destroy shotguns especially the one from archons forge. I don't understand why people want shotguns nerfed do you really want the meta where people camp spawn all match with snipers?
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35 RepliesEdited by meatballsublime: 10/12/2016 6:14:06 PM[b]Your Point: [/b] Dying because you've already taken damage already makes sense. Agreed 100%. [b]Counterpoint: [/b] Getting killed from across the room [i]with [u]full [/u]health[/i] by Universal Remote, Conspiracy Theory D, Party Crasher + 1, or Matador64 as a max-armor titan, however, is another story. I've been OHK'ed by max range shotguns from across the room with full health and w/ the highest armor setting on a striker titan when playing [i]normal [/i]crucible (no light-level advantages). Now, lag could be a factor, but I've seen it happen a number of times. During this past iron banner, for example, I was OHK'ed by a shotgun from 50 feet away by a titan at roughly the same light-level as me (like + or - 2 points of light). He was using a Matador. (I do think he was green-bar lagging, however. I have a 1gb fiber, hard-wired connection, so lag is [i]usually [/i]not my problem.)
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9 RepliesI honestly have to laugh at all these people thinking they're op. At max you can stand 3-4 m and die at full HP. Any farther and you're at the mercy of how much armor the enemy has. In year 1 you could hit people at 20m. I don't understand everyone's need to nerf these again, the problem comes that primaries can neither stop a rusher or a sniper.
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3 RepliesImo, in the right hands, fusions and even sidearms are more OP than shotguns. The only thing where shotguns perform better than other weapons is corner camping.
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11 Repliesits not shotguns. their range is fine. its players ability to blink into your face with it to exploit its dmg falloff.
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6 RepliesThey do and ppl refuse to believe it because for some reason shotguns are so hated in Destiny thx to big YouTubers and Streamers. In my opinion high rate of fire Snipers and Shotguns should get more bullets in reserve because what's the point of using them if you have the high impact ones. Shotguns phantom bullets need a fix. I'm always using a side arm because shotguns and fusions are inconsistent.
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14 RepliesI'm so glad I made this video over the weekend. I feel like it can be shown in nearly every shotgun discussion to show proof about where these guns actually OHKO. The visual proof (first and third person view) is definitely there for everyone to see. The REAL question is if it changes anyone's mind who is set on one side of the argument or the other. [url]https://youtu.be/pNmPVnedMHk[/url]
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12 Repliesshotguns most definitely are op have you ever seen the matador -_- i cried myself to sleep every night after last weeks iron banner :,(
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2 RepliesEdited by Fridén: 10/12/2016 7:26:07 PMShotguns are not over powered. I agree with that statement. However, they ARE extremely strong in the current META. This is mainly do to the movement and class abilities throughout the 3 available. Few abilities in the game make using snipers/fusion rifles more advantageous. (Only ones I can think of are quick draw and keen scout.) Problem doesn't exist in class abilities either, problem stems from the fact that primaries are systematically nerfed, and as a result, weapons that one shot get much stronger. The current shotgun would get absolutely destroyed during the thorn META. You would be punished for blindly rushing without proper caution. Obviously a buff to primaries that extreme isn't the solution either, but the fact that low impact autos, the true counter to shotguns, have range drop off start at 15 meters (literally a slide shotgun melee away) doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. Autos and hand cannons need some love, BAD. Handle the exotic hand cannons separately as to not create that META again.
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It depends I have a good roll shotgun and Evan I agree is op
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22 RepliesShotguns are fine, the problem is there's still too much special ammo. And, the other specials aren't very good. Nerf the ammo, buff snipers, and fusions. The ammo nerf would buff sidearms. High impact primaries need work, also.
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13 RepliesThe range of a shotgun is about the same as a stormcaller melee, but apparently one of them is OP
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3 RepliesOpponent with [b]no shield and half a bar of health[/b]: -gets hit with a headshot from a scout rifle, pulse rifle, or hand cannon- "WHAT! How did that kill me?" Me: "Your health was low [u]enough[/u]." Opponent: "[b]No way bro[/b] i had [u]almost[/u] full health." Me: "Idk i'm just a rando."
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22 RepliesEdited by psyghotic: 10/12/2016 11:43:53 AMYou must be kidding. During IB i kept being one-shotted by shottys from rediculess range all the time. I was forced to play shotty instead of fusion or sniper. Lucky there still is Plan C. I now became a shotty player with the occasional use of Plan C. I started out as a sniper player.
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7 RepliesAs a shotty player in this last IB, I have only this to say. Sidearms are your friend.
