*Edit: Welp. Looks like Bungie was well on to this before I brought it up. The zero likes doesn't bug me because I know I have a point. Little clarification for newcomers, King's Fall was not a bad raid, and I don't mind technical raids, but it just drug on and on and on, and people just wouldn't take you if you had never done it before AND weren't a high light lvl for their purposes. Like I say down below, it wasn't hard, it was just a little TOO involved, and TOO long and forced people to set requirements that were nearly insurmountable for people who didn't do and learn the raid right away. If they had cut out some of the jumping puzzles or one or two of other puzzles, it would have been just fine. It def still wouldn't have been like Crota. t haven't completed Kings Fall in any mode this time around, because it's not worth the hassle. This is not school or a paid job. I don't get real money or certifications for this, so why, Bungie, are you creating content that requires ridiculous amounts of prep time before you even get to play it. Many fire teams require "experience" because your raids are SO buggy (as opposed to truly difficult) and SO involved and, in the case of Kings Fall, SO drawn out, that having anything less than a well rehearsed team results in hours of stall time. The current matchmaking system only adds to this issue since it's still a random matchmaking system that can and does throw newbies together......it just takes more time. Ironically, if you want it to be a little less randomized (for randomized it still is) here too, the only way to get on a team is to have experience, which, again, you can only gain experience by doing the very activity you are being barred from for having no experience. The only option then is to literally do research outside of the game JUST to play the game. This is asinine and part of the reason I haven't taken any more steps toward completing Kings Fall or preordering Rise of Iron. I'm giving voice to the casuals that bought your game who would never jump online to tell you this, and the hardcores....they matter, yes, but how much do they matter? Hardcore players don't pay your bills. It's the casual players that actually get you your profits. What are your stats for completion on King's Fall I wonder? How many of your "20+ million" registered players have completed it or even attempted it? How many are going to bother buying an expansion that they know will require as much time outside of game as gameplay itself whether in watching videos or combing through your recruitment page? In March 2015 the stats percentages were pretty abismal on how much of your player base had actually participated in endgame content.Haven't heard much since, except that you have "20+ million registered users." I'm no super genius, but let's do the math for this next expansion. If 25 million were still playing and were pumped for the next expansion, 25 million x $30 is what? $750 million. Phew wee. That's a chunk of change. There's no way that's how many people are on your server, but that's not my point anyway. We'll say only...what's a fair number.....only 5 million have dropped off since launch. (Because your current raid policies have been in place since then and haven't changed) 5 million x $30....$150 million dollars in lost profit on this next expansion from a 20% loss in player base, because they are casuals locked out of key content by an asinine (and selfish) hardcore player base spurred on by equally asinine and inane requirements for gameplay. $150 million in lost profits to cater to hard core players.....that doesn't sound like a small number to me. Do you have 20 million financially well off, hard core players who are willing to plug the hours it takes outside of the game to play the game? Or who will try to find people to guide them through and gain them the experience to complete the raids? Probably not. I gave up, on it, and if you look at my play time, I'm def not a casual player. I noticed a lot of youtube destiny channels that I've always gone to are a lot lower in viewership than they used to be. That's interesting. So many suggestions have been given to you on how to appeal to your casual base. There's no need for me to give them to you here. This is an argument on why you should listen to them (even if they haven't gotten a lot of "likes" and comments). Because, again, the casual crowd doesn't really take the time to voice themselves. If you want to lose profits simply because you can't consider your entire player base as a whole when it comes to end game activities (something not even that hard to do) then that's your business (pun intended). If you only lose 2% of 15 million (a likely more accurate rep of your current base) going from TTK to ROI that's $9 million in profit loss, but hey, it's your vision. But if you ever want to chance get that $9 million back, you could try not being so stubborn about certain aspects of your game that turn off casual players. Just some facts to consider.