Excellent sum up of days of glorious past. Year 1 old guard hoorah! I agree with every point. I miss the fire of excitement that drove me to play weeks on end and then every time I got a break from college. The drive for rare weapons with powerful stats was positively strong. The activities were manageable with time and effort and after the smoke cleared sweet loot was pilfered and there was much rejoicing. Now our guardians can walk around turn up a rock and bam they find everything they desire. I feel the game has slacked in driving gamers to play for longer hours anymore and I miss that. I am neither casual or hardcore because I identify only as a gamer and even I can understand when a game gives too easily then it is played less. Keep up the informative posts I am rooting for you if anything someday a good change will come to destiny I don't know when or how but gamers like you will blaze a trail and this game will be glorious again.

"so put on the big boy pants and stop catering to the generation of the participation trophy." Love this and you hit everything squarely on the head. The first year was so much better and such a grind. I couldn't wait in until the Tuesday reset to get my flaming head on all 3 characters.

I agree completely

Dude you hit the spot with this post but what kills me is the complaining you are doing is different from people complaining about how a gun should be nerfed. It's funny people tell you not to complain because that's why the game is watered down smh.... Really tho that's pathetic to say because you clearly are explaining how it is and where it sits now from year 1. It's funny how I read a couple feedback post and understand how this community is and why this game is so f-Ed up

Great post exactly how it went down. -blam!-ing made this shit dulled down shitty perks weapons missions everything is a repeat joke. Re skins and re rolls.... -blam!- that.

Could not be more accurate. I used to take Tuesdays off work just to get a head start on my destiny week. Now I just don't care. I've more or less stopped playing as there really is no point. Nothing worth grinding for and it's just not fun at this point. Year 1 had its flaws that's for damn sure, and year 2 saw improvements on many of them but the things it messed up on it messed up BADLY.

to many people complained about everything being to hard and to op.. things were watered down except for trials.. how can you tell.. because we get one week of a few modifiers and more mechanically deep bosses that actually make people think about what they are doing and people loose their minds over it being to hard.. I raid 3 x a week, do 3 x nightfall, run pvp shaxx bounties and dailies, weeklies, run patrol and help other wolves. I play alot and enjoy myself.. If there are people out there that just arn't having fun, please go somewhere and play another game.. when the dlc comes out, come on back.. play the game and I will still be here.. but, stop complaining about how the game is.. play it or don't, its watered down because of the complaining.

Well, there's nothing you can do now. Embrace what Bungie has in store for us. You complain about all the complaints you hear on these forums, but this post is nothing different. It's almost year 3. It's not year 1 anymore. Get over it or leave the game entirely. I understand your points, but literally nothing can be done to go back in time.

[quote] year 1, THE LAUNCH You play strikes and story mode, who the hell is xur? Cool this guys sells stuff not easily obtained in the game. Why do some people have blue flames around their head? Oh, nightfalls give you that because you earn an experience boost and right on! exotics can drop pretty consistantly and those are hard to come by everywhere else. That experience boost is nessassry as weapons must be grinded out to level up, which is cool, it gives me reason to patrol and do strikes as I test my weapon to see if I want to continue leveling it up.[\quote] To a degree it was like that but you forgot to add endless complaints of no story and crappy rewards. Ever knew what it felt like finally get a legendary engram only for Rahool to turn it into a blue? From your post no. Bungie had to hire out special security for the cryptach due to amount of guardians out to murder the dude. [Quote]first update, THE VAULT OF GLASS WOW, I have to socialize with other people in order to defeat this, not sure about that, I usually play solo. But Awesome we get gear and weapons from this raid and now i have friends on here to help with other activities, let's form a clan together. What is this? Awesome,  these primaries  have burns on them which help greatly. Got to do normal and hard because the drops are different, first have to do my nightfalls though for the experience boost because weapons take so long to upgrade, as they should.[/quote] VoG at the time was only attempted by a very small amount. It also gave rise to numerous requests for MM being available for raids. People felt left out and it was no where near the utopia that you described. That and the infamous forever 29. [Quote]Next update, IRON BANNER AWESOME, These weapons can be re-rolled when iron banner comes around and your level matters so my amazing prowess of defeating the raid over and over has giving me a slight advantage. ...plus some luck with the drops of course[/quote] Not exactly an update since Iron Banner was in the beta. Weapon re rolling wasn't added to IB until after TDB dropped. [Quote]6 month update, CROTA SWEET, a new raid, same as vog, normal mode drops are different from hard. 6 raids are a must. Lvl now 32, but my Lvl 30 vog stuff is still viable...so...12 raids plus a nightfall to do ! Yes ! So much to do...I have options[/quote] Now this is where your credibility starts to fall apart. The Dark Below was released 3 months after vanilla dropped. What you also neglected to mention at this time was vendor gear now came in at level 31. You don't know how many VoG veterans were mightily pissed that their hours spent raiding were all for nought in barely 3 months. [Quote]TRIALS this is cool, good loot for the Pvp die hards. Now PvE and PvP players have an outlet to show off their skills.[/quote] That was the good side. The bad side it introduced elitism and mass cheating. Plus a lot of salty PvE players whose PoE rewards in comparison were crap. [Quote]9 month update, POE oh damn this is hard and what is this etheric light ? Hot damn I can bring my fate bringer and vog stuff to the new lvl. Damn it..I dismantled some stuff, back to venus and the damn gorgons. Sweet, these primaries have burns on them too! Oh, now I can re-roll every weapon...ok, but that's what made iron banner feel so special as those were the only weapons that can be re-rolled. [/quote] On paper it was good that you could use etheric light to ascend all weapon and reroll perks. The reality was different. It narrowed the meta to a point that if you didn't come equipped in a PvE activity with Fatebringer, Black Hammer and Gjallahorn you seriously faced being laughed at. Oh silly me I forgot, you used VoC if it was solar burn. [Quote]Every Tuesday during year 1 Can't wait to get home, it's reset day and another chance for an exotic! [/quote] Ok I'll give you this one. [Quote]YEAR 2 TAKEN KING Damn, my stuff I have sucks now, I have to throw it away for vault space cause even Rares are better than my fate bringer and the all mighty Gjallahorn. Hmmmmm...the nightfall sure sucks now, 3 of coins exist, no need to grind the nightfall anymore and no blue flame adorned around my head!? No more returning to orbit! What happened? Must have been too much whining from the masses. Least the raid is cool...but what's this? Hard and normal have the same stuff with the same perks ? No burns on primaries? Just different colors ...wtf, well  burns aren't really a factor in year 2 anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.  Guess all I really need to do is 3 raids, cool I have more time to do other things, like cut the grass, try different games out, or try and find something on Netflix worth watching...I guess.[/quote] The first part about resetting gear upset a lot guardians, but we adapted although we made it known to Bungie not to do that again. The rest is just whining. [Quote]ahhh, quests.... these are cool. (Till after 2 months when the drops for them are dismantling material and no need for the experince as I can just use my motes of light, almost a good idea)[/quote] Err ok? [Quote]RETURN OF IRON BANNER hmmmm...no more rerolling weapons and why does a gaurdian at 295 light pack as much punch as my 320!? Guess size doesn't matter...anymore, even though they say it does. So much for having an advantage because my raid team and I kick ass[/quote] It was always like that in Iron Banner, just wasn't as noticeable since everyone were maxed. [Quote]6 months later,(crys that it's too hard to achieve light and all the loot easily obtained still isn't good enough for me)[/quote] I thought you had a kick ass raid team? If you raided almost weekly it should have been a piece of piss to have reached 320. [Quote]COE AND NEW MAX LIGHT HMMMM, everyone gets light like candy on Halloween. So much for all those raid hours every week, my skill at the raid and luck of drops gives me no advantage or bragging rights over lower light players. Wow..now I can infuse everything to what the infusing is...all the glimmer and materials I wasted, but ok. Ummmm this isn't even the old POE, it's just the same 3 levels every week with different challenge for points? This does not feel like destiny and it's hardly a challenge. The raid and nightfall are pointless thanks to light giving out so easily and 3 of coins, guess I will wait for trials and iron banner to give it ago since trials is the only way now to have something not everyone can get so easy, I'm sure that will soon change too and you only need 1 win to get to the light house.  This is crap..what is there really to do ? Everything has been acheived and everyone has everything...no more showing off my accomplishments with the gear I have or my light level.[/quote] Most of this is whining with added salt. CoE is far better than Y1 PoE. If you'd done Skolas you would know what I mean. [Quote]EVERY TUESDAY YEAR 2... oh..it's reset day...meh...I can just wait, don't really need anymore exotics and if I did...I can just grind plain ass strikes for one. [/QUOTE] The changes with which you clearly have a huge chip on shoulder over were done so guardians didn't rush home to complete the weekly tasks every Tuesday. You could spread it over the week. [Quote]That should sum up why so many have deserted the game, as I'm sure most of you have noticed your pages and pages of friends active dwindling more and more. This is my personal opinion and if you disagree fine, that's your right. Just look at all the year 1 activities there was to do that was worth while compared to where the game sits now. When's the last time you rode your sparrow? With each update or dlc since year 2, Destiny has become a shell of what it was and what it was supposed to be and there is no arguing that fact. Just imagine if all the content in Destiny was viable, it would make for an epic game with tons of options to do.[/quote] So you have access to the active player figures then? Oh wait. You don't. Like everyone else who create these types of posts make up statistics on the spot. [Quote]Of course I'm sure some trolls will find something to argue, there's always those guys and before you say..."well WoW always got rid of old content for new content like every other mmo" I say to that...why be like everyone else. Think outside the box, I see cool ideas people post all the time on here. Do they listen? No, but they say they do.[/quote] In other words agree with me or I'm going to label you a troll. [Quote]They must listen to the 10 year old and younger demographic, because all Bungie has done was make the game so easy it feels like a child's game. PS Bungie. ..that demographic doesn't have the money to buy your games and dlc..so put on the big boy pants and stop catering to the generation of the participation trophy.[/quote] With the bad spelling and grammar I could say a 10 year old made this post. However, I'll go with people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I'll just finish off with this post is largely inaccurate catering for a small minority that seem to be afflicted with Guardian Stockholm Syndrome.

Destiny never "thrived". It sold millions of copies, but that doesn't make it successful; people were frustrated of the lack of storyline when the streams and trailers said otherwise. Now they made crucible more balanced. More variety of weapons, but people prefer Year 1 because it was new. Doesn't mean it was a better game, it meant that it was new so people loved it and now that it's slowly decreasing in popularity people are losing interest.

You played for bragging rights? You played for having stuff others don't? How sad. How about this: Destiny got boringly repetitive and unrewarding, so people left to find something fresh to entertain them?

A bump and like to you, Good Sir! That sums it up really well. There's just really no motivation like there used to be. I miss my Tuesdays blurring into Wednesday because I played all night long trying to get my Nightfalls and Raids done. In year one I would turn down tons of invites from awesome players just because there were so many, pages and pages on my friends list playing Destiny. Now I'm surprised if there's more than couple logged on. I still get on regularly but no where near the amount of hours I put in before TTK.

I never realised how good year 1 and especially the HoW part was until TTK launched and ever thing good about so many things was removed. Man I really don't like year 2.

You've gone from complaining for nerfs to this. Where was this? Thumbs up, upvote and bump

I totally 100% agree with you. I know it's stupid but I miss feeling special. My hours of grinding and acquiring gear gave me a knowledgable skill base. Now if I can be bothered lfg raiding .... I get players with high light but absolutely no skills 80% of the time. I'm more than happy with helping out and mentoring. In fact I rather enjoy it. But lately it's just been painful. Especially with players arguing over petty setups and crazy tactics. It seems bungie have driven away all the first year skill base players and swapped them for untrained entitled temps. [spoiler][/spoiler]Sorry if that sounds mean but having spent 4 hours trying to get a group of 318 to 331 players to do the warpriest challenge...clear the ads..die..watch out for the warpriest..die...watch that knight...die...step on your plate...die...left you idiot...die...get off the plate...die.... Put down the bong...die ....I think you get the picture. [spoiler][/spoiler]

Nice post. I still love destiny. But all I do is crucible. PvE sucks so much now. VoG is still my favorite raid. Crota was ok. I hated grinding during patrol missions but you know it wasn't so bad with friends. Gave you a reason to go out into the world. Nightfall used to be fun and give awesome rewards. Now... I don't even bother with it. I don't do the raid because it's boring. Why make me do the same raid again for lackluster gear that can't get you anywhere? VoG weapons were godly in PvE and thr crucible. Everybody who played year 1 knows the name "fatebringer" "found verdict" and let us not forget "confluence" and last but not least "praedyths revenge". Now... they all suck...

Very well said. This post needed to be made.

People here on these forums say "Bungie never listens to us!" Well, most of TTK is a direct result of feedback from the forums. Wanna blame someone? Just as much lies with the community as it does Bungie....