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12/16/2015 6:05:14 PM
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Why Sparrow Racing Was Mismarketed as Skill, When it's all Luck

The SRL was marketed as taking skill and only rewarding the best sparrow drivers out there. This is not true. Sparrow Racing rewards those lucky enough to push someone out of a boost gate. That's it. No skill. I'd win all my races if sparrows didn't have collision. I always have the early lead, but with the person tailing behind? They start to bump into the back of my sparrow which sends it careening off into the wild. It's ridiculous how many races I lost to luck and not skill. What do you think? Should collision be turned off?
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  • I win every race without bumping anyone. Am I just lucky 100% of the time? No. I'm better then everyone else. I.e. I'm more skilled than them.

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    • Who cares, you get nothing for ending in 1st place, rewards are pure RNG

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      • Edited by FlandreScarlette: 12/16/2015 9:57:11 PM
        Not to mention the gates get larger and give more speed boosts the further you're behind. I always trail first til the very end for that very reason. And it really bugs me when I can TELL they're not trying to send me flying, the shitty sparrow physics just did their job for them xD And when they ARE pushing you on purpose? I try to push them back so I can go the way I was going, but for some reason, they can keep pushing me ;-;

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      • Edited by Zovre: 12/16/2015 8:13:38 PM
        I have a friend who constantly gets first by at least 15 seconds every single time, regardless of collision or starting off bad or being held back a bit. He knows every single little tip and trick. If that's not skill then I don't know what is.

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        • People can hate on you for this post but it is still very true. This isn't a real racing game. It's a side quest kind of game, but I think it's a really good one for that. The problem is that sparrows have always performed very poorly. I actually feel like they have fixed a lot of the problems with them. I would say it's a work in progress.

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        • If they can send you careening at the slightest tap then so can you. Sparrow racing is on an even playing field and the only advantages people get are from armor which is the only thing that involves luck. Don't complain about it being luck and get good

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          • The bumping thing is weird. People just swat my sparrow out of the way like a toy but mine just harmlessly bounces off theirs.

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            • For me it's all bad luck. Half the race I'm in first, bounce off a mob the wrong way and wham, 6th place. It honestly comes down to consistency for me, and I consider that a skill.

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            • Not to mention, you do it back to them and have the same results. Other than that little issue, I'm actually enjoying this mode.

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            • The physics in this game are just really really broken

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            • Rubin is racin!

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              • It doesn't seem like luck if I win 21/25 races...

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                • Just get the wins to complete the quest and make level 3 then hang back and have fun. Unless you take the lead early, being in the pack can get annoying with all the childish behavior.

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                  • Edited by PeetSquared: 12/16/2015 9:10:33 PM
                    I see it as the racer that is knocking you off your game as having more skill. Sorry, man, whatever the case, it def is not 'luck'. How would it make sense to NOT have bumping in SRL? Edit...how can you guys NOT like all the bumping, pushing and battling for gates and the fight for the lead? That is easily the most fun thing in SRL.

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                  • Edited by Nismo: 12/16/2015 8:45:21 PM
                    With the lag in the game there are people who can send you flying but when you try to push them back they are a freight train. No collisions is a must.

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                  • I can't believe people are crying about this. And I can't believe I bumped this thread. So ridiculous. JUST HAVE SOME FUN

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                  • Why would it be any different than anything else in this game? This is a casual man's game. People that think it takes skill are just lying to themselves

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                  • When I pretty much finish top three with the majority being wins I would have to disagree. I deal with the bumping and manage.

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                  • So you're in first but they managed to catch you up and nudge you therefore you'd always win if there was no nudging? Ok.

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                  • They should reduce the effect of collisions, but not remove them. While playing with my brother or clan we constantly fuss about hitting each other but on the other guys screen you may not even hit. And nobody is lagging around when it happens.

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                  • [quote]Sparrow Racing rewards those lucky enough to push someone out of a boost gate. That's it. No skill.[/quote] I admit there is no skill involved in SRL, but it rewards those lucky enough to push someone out of a boost gate? What are you even talking about? You get the same chance at all the same rewards whether you get 1st or 6th place..... literally what is the guy in 1st getting rewarded that anyone else can't get unless they're in first? I could spin around in circles at the start line for the whole match and by the end I would have the same chance as getting a shader, a horn, or any legendary item as anyone above me..... So what was that again about rewards?

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                  • Lol u suck. Sparrow racing is all skill. If ur literally battling for an inch with someone tied with u in 1st then u do what u gotta do. Pushing someone is a risk/reward thing

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                    • Nudging and bumping are skills, so is avoiding it. Position yourself on the inside of turns, push back when they nudge, hit the breaks for a second. These are all part of being skilled. Driving the race perfectly is the beginning, go back to school and learn the rest of racing.

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                      • Edited by aKrazyDutchman: 12/16/2015 6:43:33 PM
                        There's no catch up mechanism in place for those not in 1st place. You might say "the gates farther back are larger!" But the 1st place gates follow the fastest path even if they are he smallest. If you know the map well enough you won't miss a single gate. At that point you are literally depending on people ahead of you screwing up to pass them, not your own skill.

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                        • Idk. It sucks getting bumped around but when Im the one trying to take that tight turn and using another Guardian as my berm is pretty sweet. Idk if I'd give up one if it meant losing the other.

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                        • They kind of half-a$$ed this death race format. They should have taken a note from motorstorm and gave guardians the ability to punch each other off instead of the very inconsistent pushing physics setup they currently rely on for the "death" race. I guarantee that if the physics actually had parity across all players, I would dominate. "You pushed me out of the very first gate? PUNCHED IN THE FACE! "You used me as a brake for the corner?" PUNCHED IN THE FACE! "You beeped your horn at me?" PUNCHED IN THE FACE! "You are purposely ruining everyone else's race just for your fire team member to win?" PUNCHED IN THE FACE! "You breathed?" PUNCHED IN THE FACE! Ah...I miss playing motor storm. It was both frustrating and fun at the same time.

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