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Edited by l MC BENNETT l: 11/14/2015 6:29:52 AM
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So ToM is now a requirement.

Can't do hard raid cuz I don't have ToM. If you need 6 on your team you mustn't be very good. Edit: 11/14/15 Beat oryx on hard with a group that only had 3 malices. Suck it haters!
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  • I did yesterday upto oryx, wiped a few times then called it on HM and I don't have ToM 2 fragments away from it mind.

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  • Then go get it. It took me 30 minutes

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  • I don't care if you don't have ToM as Long as you have a high impact sniper. No time to explain is a decent replacement for ToM on warpriest and golgoroth

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    • Sleeper Simulant does 2x as much damage or more. You need Ruin Wings or Alchemist's Raiment and a surplus perk on your secondary to give you infinite lasers. Check my 314 Titan

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      • Edited by Crott117: 11/13/2015 2:18:23 PM
        ToM is one of the easiest Y2 exotics to get. It requires no luck at all and only a small time commitment and youtube to get 45 fragments. If you don't have it, you only have yourself to blame. edit - ok technically the couple tier 2 coO fragments require luck but if you get the wrong combination of bosses, just abandon it and start another in 30 seconds or so.

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      • It took me about 2 hours to do it right after I finished my 1st NM run, just complete it

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        • If you have two hours to run a hard raid, you have two hours to get touch of malice. Honestly, pretty easy to get.

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        • Edited by Pixel Crisis: 11/13/2015 2:04:36 PM
          It takes a small time investment to get the ToM. What's keeping you from getting it? I got the drops from the Court previously so when I went to do it with only 19/45 it only took 2 hours.

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          • Why would I ever invite some lazy f[b]u[/b]ck who can't take the time to get the touch of malice? I bet you want to do no knight strategy too, lazy ass.

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            • Nope I dont have it and completed the hard raid

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            • OP is telling me that he has done normal [b][i][u]7[/u][/i][/b] times and still [b]DOESNT[/b] have ToM

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            • I have been in so many raids from lfg and i dont think its EVER been "ToM required". Most the time people ask for an emblem because they want people knowing whats going on, but thats about it. Besides its easy as -blam!- to get

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            • I agree. Some players don't have as much time to invest in that kind of farming. When I get an hour to play. It would be nice to join a chill group and just enjoy the raid without elitists requiring a perfect setup. This is the problem with young gamers now a days. Once they have a family and a career they might understand. But until than, there is Fallout 4.

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              • Have you considered creating your own team? It's not difficult and you can have your own requirements.

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              • You just have crappy friends.

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              • Why don't you have it though? It is all but necessary at oryx

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                • NTTE is a replacement for ToM and doesn't risk you dying in the firefight or when teleported on Oryx. A high impact sniper such as 1000 yard is fine for the stagger. One thing to do though if you want to replace ToM with NTTE is make sure you level that sucker! ToM comes at 310 so you need at least a 305 NT.

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                  • All its good for is to keep him staggered, snipers do much more damage, only twats look for ToM as an aquirement. That is all...

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                    • No hard mode completions on any of the raids. You honestly shouldn't try doing hard mode yet until you can get off your lazy butt and not expect to get carried.

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                    • Edited by Cromica: 11/13/2015 1:34:37 PM
                      If you beat normal mode there is no reason not to have it and if you haven't beat normal you have no business running hard.

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                    • So this is the only gun that will let you beat the raid? Why is it so important?

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                      • I don't know why if you have done normal you shouldn't have ToM

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                      • Why don't you have touch I may ask it's really easy to get

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                      • If I can walk 4 people through the raid who've never done it, then 6 people who know what they're doing shouldn't have a major problem with hard mode.

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                      • Exactly. I was trying to do a raid with a group on my Titan last week and they kicked me for not having ToM. I always use ToM but I really didn't want to this week. Could I have just switched to malice? Of course but I'm not going let someone try to dictate what gun I use or don't use in the raid. I'm a team player but they could have easily completed the raid without malice.

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                        • Good

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