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10/14/2015 10:17:28 PM
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Seriously, what's up with shotguns in Iron Banner.

I can't seem to do anything in Iron Banner this week. I play with either red death, sniper or hawkmoon sniper. I can't seem to go positive, because every time I turn a corner there's someone waiting with a shotgun. Why are they so prominent this week? Didn't 2.0 AND 2.1 nerf shotguns? I don't understand. If someone could educate the uneducated, that would be great.
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  • Edited by seraphic_thunder: 10/15/2015 5:13:05 PM
    because the maps are very close and fusion rifles aren't as good as they should be Edit: also you run a corner without checking. Not the shotguns fault

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    • 2.0 needed shotguns a bit for pvp, but hammered them for PvE. 2.01 just removed a perk that was nerfed a little by 2.0. Shotguns remain very lethal at close range but if you have some distance they are not that threatening. Map design and game design (capture control points) allows for lots of opportunities to get in close range conflicts. As far as finding shotguns around every corner that is a matter of adjusting your movement and paying attention to your radar. Even a crouched player puts a blink on the radar intermittently, adjust accordingly. I am terrible at crucible but tend to do better in Iron Banner with a pretty decent percentage of games in the positive for k/d.

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    • People will always use them. Best close range weapon. It's not even close.

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    • Only nerfed range on shotties, they're still super effective up close and for tight maps

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    • What did you expect? Fusion rifles? Jesus

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    • My issue is the such close quarters maps that favour shotguns, they are feeling op but that's because fusions just seem pillowcases compared to them. In range my pulse rifles wreck

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      • Aawww muffins

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      • Hawkmoon's range, as far as I can tell, is nothing like Thorn's pre-nerf. I actually transitioned to a pulse rifle as a result.

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        • Well, when you are in a CQC situation the shotgun will always win. If you're running around corners without looking at your radar and get popped by the shotty is the guy that was prepared for the encounter at fault or is the person who's running around the corner unprepared at fault? Sure, some shotguns operated exquisitely at long range but here's the thing, you know they got range yet you still push the engagement and when you die you complain that it needs a nerf. No, it's not the weapon that needs the nerf it's the idiot who died that needs a nerf. If you know that shotguns are Boss and still push the engagement and die you are not entitled to come to the forums and complain. I'm not saying you OP, but as a whole that's what I think of all the shotgun complainers on the forums.

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        • I swear my shotgun has half the range of my opponents every time no matter what.

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          • Sad thing is shotguns are pretty useless now, everyone crying about shotguns are the ones who forced people to hide around corners! Honestly if these "fixes" on shotguns keep happening bungie is going to repeat the same shyt they did with auto riffles in year one! Wait let me guess the next thing those people are going to cry about... They slide to far with shotguns it needs a nerf!!!!

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            • They all need to git gud

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            • Just avoid campy spots and back up if someone blinks at you

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            • I got killed by found verdict

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              • Which is why I get a 4 kd. Without a shotgun

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              • Edited by BigDaddyE47: 10/15/2015 8:25:59 PM
                They could nerf shotguns until you had to be touching someone to kill them with one and there would still be a dozen threads complaining about.

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                • You don't think before you engage.

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                • You rush me or are in my face you expect me to blast you with a sniper? Uh NO, I'm going to shotgun you close quarters and scout rifle you from a distance. I run with an Invective and since its Full Auto guess what? Chances are if your in range your dead.

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                • I just use the Supercell and I usually do fine against players with shotguns.

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                • A vanguard quest drops a shotgun that is perfectly rolled for crucible even with the removal of rangefinder. And also because they have really dealt with the real problem, which is the functional range gained from a felwinter archtype shotguns impact.

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                • i think the real question is whats up with 1000 yard stare? is there a hidden perk to this thing? why is this thing a giant headshot magnet?

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                  • If someone shotgun u around the corner do expect to survive ?

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                    They didn't nerf shotguns. They removed a perk that couldn't be fix3d. Why would they nerf shotguns out the game? C'mon homie. I use sniper all day though.

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                  • [quote]I can't seem to go positive, because every time I turn a corner there's someone waiting with a shotgun.[/quote] Bitch ass whining in my book.

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                  • Well....with my defender setup, my no backup plans give me a over shield every shotgun kill.... Do i camp corners? Nah, do i slide....maybe, do i take sunbreaks and lighting gods outa super with a supressor than shotgun ya

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                  • I'm playing pvp this week because I can't progress with my story without it. Haven't played pvp since black ops 2. And I gotta say. Most of you all SUCK! For over a year you pvper's have run around these maps. Found out what the best loadouts were. All the good camping spots. (Shotgunners) And a scrub like me can come in and be positive k/d in around five matches. I came across some truly skilled players last night. Got wrecked a couple times. But my point is that the average pvp player is no better than a first time player. Maybe working harder on your base skills will bring you more success than coming to the forums and bitching that you got killed by whatever random weapon you think needs removal. I post this because I truly am an outsider. I don't pvp. After my night in IB I find all the calls for nerfs unjustified. Killed a sunbreaker, blade dancer & a storm caller with my suros. Why is this so hard for others. I highly doubt my suros was the best choice for pvp but I'm new and need to learn my lessons. Stop the nerf posts and practice. Still can't win? Maybe Mario brothers would be a better choice. Certainly better than having sub-par players affecting the game as a whole with these nerf posts.

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