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Edited by jaw5493:
10/3/2015 2:37:16 AM
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Hard Mode is an Extension of the Raid
After listening to the interview with Luke Smith with Kotaku one thing is clear....we have not seen everything the raid has to offer yet.
Luke Smith said that this is still the biggest raid yet implying that normal mode is only part 1 and there is much more to come.
I believe hard mode will not be a rehash of normal but instead a set of completely different bosses.
The fact that Bungie won't officially announce if Oryx is dead? No information yet on the Queen (outside of grimorie)? This interview with Luke Smith?
I'm excited for hard mode and Kings Fall 2.0.
Link to podcast: http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833
Edit: to dispel a rumor they said that "they started with hard mode and then scaled it down to normal mode". That does not necessarily mean with difficulty...it could have meant started with 6 bosses and then gave us 3 for normal. We are assuming a lot with that statement.
Edit 2: TTK is year 2, Kings Fall is year 2. Don't assume the pattern for year 1 raids will continue with year 2.
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2 RepliesIf you look at the achievement for the hard raid it's called "long live the king." We know they created the hard raid first and then scaled it back, so the theory is after you defeat Oryx the raid continues. We will have to wait and see, but based on the achievement name it seems pretty clear.
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5 RepliesProbably just more jumping puzzles. That's all they did to lengthen the raid was jumping puzzles
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It's bungie so I'm gonna say all hard mode will bring is no protective shields to shoot the bosses in.
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2 RepliesThis is the third raid, and people still believe different difficulties means different raid? Stupidity at is finest.
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Edited by toffee: 10/2/2015 6:16:28 PMBefore the companion app update you could see the hard mode checkpoints, they were the same as the normal checkpoints. Also how dafuq is saying it's the biggest raid yet 'implies' that normal is part 1, kings fall is bigger than vog already.
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Not sure if anyone remembers, but at one point the destiny app showed checkpoints for both normal and hard raids. Both had the same number of checkpoints. So for those thinking there may be an additional checkpoint... I don't think so. Probably will be like most hard raids: higher level and tougher enemies with slightly tweaked mechanics to make it harder.
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7 RepliesNo revives, Oryx floats away after you kill him, then the room fills with taken captains you have to survive or you start the Oryx checkpoint over.
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2 RepliesIt'll just be the same, but no revives and a couple extras mechanics. It's hard mode, implying it's the same thing, but in a harder mode
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12 RepliesI think in hard mode there wont be those invincibility shields or buffs. The fights will be the same, only you will be getting shot at and taking damage when "dps" ing the boss
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3 RepliesEdited by LordTears2Roses: 10/2/2015 5:27:40 PMthey stated they made hard mode first in the interview and then toned it back to make the normal mode but there may be a few extras not to much tho as there is going to be a 3rd mode with this raid that is not announced yet. took some digging on reddit but i found what i was looking for, a whole page that remembers what luke smith said (speculates about) https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3iz1a0/question_luke_smith_discussing_a_further/
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13 RepliesHope Oryx is still alive, and I hope we don't kill him. He makes a very good antagonist. Defeating bosses is one thing, but it would be cool if they could linger on and continue to be a hidden threat to the galaxy.
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2 RepliesThat's what I've been saying. Eris says something like oryx is defeated, but not killed And hive gods can only be killed in there throne world or dimension like Crota and oryx died on the ship
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5 RepliesMaybe i saw this wrong, but after killing oryx in regicide it looks like he "takes" himself, but at the end of kings fall he still seems normal and hive, instead of twitchy and taken. Just my two cents
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3 RepliesMaybe we will fight taken crota.
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Taken Oryx, maybe?
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[spoiler]Oryx is not dead.... Eris will say hes not dead after u beat the raid!!! [/spoiler]
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1 ReplyExcept there's 4 bosses...
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I heard a rumor that supposedly we fight the Queen but all dead and taken and stuff. But hey it's just a rumor
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A lot of comments saying there will just be more yellow bars at level 42 (artificial difficulty). I understand why you think that way; they blew it with Crota. However, look at everything they've fixed. Look at how many mistakes they've admitted and changed. I have faith they'll learn from the CE mistake as well.
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2 RepliesIf they have different bosses and different mechanics Il play but if it the same I will just skip it since the raid stops being fun after you beat it a few times, at least for me. Also PvP is about to be good again
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Reply for later
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I bet the only thing that's gonna change is no revives
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3 RepliesI'm hoping for a mission or cutscene where we go rescue the Queen from some prison on the ship. I know she might be dead but I hang on to the quote early in the campaign "Their leaders are yours to deal with" Oryx: "I will take them all" I just see this as he took the queen, meaning we have to either rescue her or kill her if she is now Taken, possibly extra raid boss?
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1 ReplyThis is mainly the WoW nostalgia kicking in but how -blam!-ing epic would it be if there was an extra phase in the oryx fight or a secret final boss. The vanguard could zone in or maybe eris/the Queen etc to make it an insane final confrontation, then it could cut to an awesome Cutscene of the bosses dieing breath/words and some extra story info.
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16 RepliesCan't even do normal mode with my weak ass light level. And rngesus just won't help me out
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I bet we have to enter the taken dimension and kill the soul of it.
