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Edited by jaw5493: 10/3/2015 2:37:16 AM
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Hard Mode is an Extension of the Raid

After listening to the interview with Luke Smith with Kotaku one thing is clear....we have not seen everything the raid has to offer yet. Luke Smith said that this is still the biggest raid yet implying that normal mode is only part 1 and there is much more to come. I believe hard mode will not be a rehash of normal but instead a set of completely different bosses. The fact that Bungie won't officially announce if Oryx is dead? No information yet on the Queen (outside of grimorie)? This interview with Luke Smith? I'm excited for hard mode and Kings Fall 2.0. Link to podcast: http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833 Edit: to dispel a rumor they said that "they started with hard mode and then scaled it down to normal mode". That does not necessarily mean with difficulty...it could have meant started with 6 bosses and then gave us 3 for normal. We are assuming a lot with that statement. Edit 2: TTK is year 2, Kings Fall is year 2. Don't assume the pattern for year 1 raids will continue with year 2.
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  • The king is dead long live the king???

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    • And the scary part is.. There gonna be an even harder mode than hard mode

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      • I found it interesting they keep saying long live the King. Even in the weekly update they said something g like 35% of fireteam beat oryx (long live the king)

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      • very interesting. my god, they may have gotten it right this time.

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      • Lore wise he can only be truly killed in his own realm like crota was in his own world We killed him in our realm So unless there's another boos fight in hard mode don't be surprised to see oryx return

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        • Wonder if the glow of light from his crispy fried chest has anything to do with anything?

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        • Hard mode is an extension.... that's what she said

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        • Has there been an announcement when HM comes out?

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        • Second Coming/ Heroic mode is what you are talking about, it's happening to all 3 raids not just KF, hard mode hasn't even been released so it'll be a while before it happens

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          • It's gona be great!! I can't wait to see all the zones in reverse.

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          • Bungie have officially revealed Oryx isn't dead. Read the book of sorrow "So I will prepare a book, which is a map to a weapon. And my vanquisher will read that book, seeking the weapon, and they will come to understand me, where I have been and where I was going. And then they will take up my weapon, and they will use it, they will use that weapon, which is all that I am. And armed thus with my past, and my future, and my present (which is a weapon, a weapon that takes whatever is available, a weapon bound to malice), they will mantle me, Oryx, the Taken King. They will become me and I will become them, each of us defeating the other, correcting the other, alloying ourselves into one omnipotent philosophy. Thus I will live forever. I’ll make sure." He becomes the Touch of Malice

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            • Edited by AJIc3CoLd: 10/2/2015 7:01:32 PM
              Yeah, it says in the lore that the Hive Gods have to be killed on their Throne. Was this Oryx's throne though? The Dreadnaught is located near Saturn on our plane existence. It's not like CE where we traveled to Crota's realm killed him there. Am I missing something? Where's AnonPig when you need him?

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              • They made hard first, then scaled it back to normal

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              • Nokris?

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                • It's Kael'thas all over again. Oryx will only have 2 green eyes in hardmode.

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                • The hard mode raid boss will be a god worm probably.

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                  • Edited by singularity: 10/2/2015 6:39:49 PM
                    Hard mode isn't the only thing being extended ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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                    • During the Oryx fight when he goes to the middle for his final stand, as soon as he opens his chest, Golgoroth 2.0 spawns in front of you and blocks all shots and you lose. Bungie confirmed this.

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                    • Hey wasn't the fundement, where deep inside they found the worm gods, a gas giant? Isn't Saturn a gas giant? Foreshadowing? Or maybe just a "full circle" type thing. He was born on a gas giant as a weak krill thing destined to live only ten years, then millions of years later dies as one of the most powerful beings in orbit of one

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                      • Happened to be running by Eris the other day after a raid completion and she said "Oryx isn't dead you know?"....

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                        • You actually get like an 80 round magazine if you don't suck. So i'm assuming you suck?

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                        • I wonder what the hard mode vault exotic could be, and not touch of malice, that didn't require hardmode. Although there may not be one.

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                        • Bungie have redeemed themselves quite a bit with TTK but my eyes are still squinting -.- I'm not getting my hopes up too high for anything epic in hard mode

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                          • Edited by TheDurk: 10/2/2015 2:34:04 PM
                            GUYS I KNOW WHO ONE OF THE BOSSES ARE GOING TO BE, AFTER YOU DEFEAT ORYX IN HARD MODE HE WILL THEN REVEAL HIS TRUE FORM:[spoiler]Xylar[/spoiler]

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                            • Maybe oryx's worm will come out and we will fight it as the true final boss. All the ahamkara fans will jizz their pants.

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                              • If you look at the achievement for the hard raid it's called "long live the king." We know they created the hard raid first and then scaled it back, so the theory is after you defeat Oryx the raid continues. We will have to wait and see, but based on the achievement name it seems pretty clear.

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