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Edited by Svedalrain: 10/7/2015 10:28:21 AM
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I know what "Sleeper Simulant" means

Under certain circumstances, fusion rifle pieces will be collected. They are called DVALIN-RAS<xxxx>-FR<nnn>. FR<nnn> is the number of the piece. RAS is Rasputin's self reporting signature. Dvalin is a Norse legend. His name means "the one who slumbered." He is most known for introducing runes to the Dwarves (Dwarf is derived from Dvalin). He is also a smith of new, powerful weapons. Banshee is a smith of powerful weapons. However, most of his weapons existed before him. He replicates powerful weapons, but it is he whom we have to thank for such weapons. He simulates the invention of such weapons by reinventing them. Banshee makes old weapons. Dvalin makes new weapons. Sleeper Simulant, as a name, is a reference to Dvalin and Banshee: Banshee simulates Dvalin. Sleeper Simulant, as a gun, is a reference to Rasputin: the description (source:instagram release) includes the phrase MIDNIGHT EXIGENT, Rasputin's current strategic process. Keep this in mind as you search for the weapon. Originally posted 9-19-15, 12:35 PDT Irrelevant edits spoilered as of 10-7-15 [spoiler]Edit (9-19-15, 13:11): If you have any insights on the weapon, I'd love to hear them. Especially anything concerning Banshee's participation in the battle of the Twilight Gap. Appendix 1: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154690610/0/0/1]Very Important Comment[/url] Summary of comment: number of pieces dropped maxes out at twice your gunsmith rank. This has been replaced with a new conjecture. Appendix 2: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154817974/0/0/1]Why pieces drop frequently sometimes, and infrequently at other times.[/url] It's part of Destiny's RNG...[I WAS WRONG ABOUT THIS][/spoiler] Did this post help you? [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154739825/0/0]Vote here.[/url]
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  • 'Voluspa' Is also a norse legend which describes the beginning and end of the universe. Gotta love bungies subtle references

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  • Edited by GrafSativia: 9/25/2015 6:44:52 PM
    I´ve got 4 Fusion Relics by my hunter. He is Rank 2. My Titan is Rank 3 almost Rank 4 but i dont know how much Relics i drop with my Titan. the thing is he dont drop anymore Relics maybe i drop already 4 of them but i forgot how much i drop :D. I found this maybe it helps us to solve what we gonna to do. http://www.destinydb.com/items/1126665156-classified#14.1eu570x;15.4,0,0

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  • Edited by OhNoItGodzilla: 9/20/2015 11:37:04 AM
    Has anyone else broken the voluspa protocol on the promethean code mission? So I spoke earlier on a quest I recieved from what I thought was Eris. Maybe I'm wrong Either way this bounty had me play through the voluspa protocol and at the end when it normally gives the countdown cayde says "you cracked the voluspa protocol? I've been trying to do that for years." Drops the floor open and reveals another area where you fight a cabal boss... I wish I remembered more or even knew what the exotic quest was. The name was "old" something (not the old hunger) and once I turned in the item I recieved to Eris the quest disappeared

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    • Help us solve hieroglyphics Pm me

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    • Any more progress on this? And can anyone confirm if they've found more than 4?

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      • The talk about the music is interesting. People are saying look in the area with the beached ships... Well there's music playing in the bunker where that one give knight was. Maybe searching around there will trigger something.

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        • Edited by TogaedHickoryIX: 9/20/2015 5:03:09 AM
          Alright, I have some info that might help and some theories. I have reached 4 within less than 24 hours between rank 0-1 (1 at rank 0, 3 at rank 1) I have gotten 3 from fallen on draksis, one from a phalanx on the psion strike. Fallen? Why significant? Because they scavenge earth and look for useful/high tech items. Rasputin is on earth But cabal? Why them? If you remember what I said, it was at the psion strike, which took place in colvis bray Clovis bray is a research and engineering company, where some of the greatest minds gather. SS is a feat of engineering and science I heard some people say some dropped of vex in the black garden. Black garden gate is on mars, clovis bray is on mars Not any word of people getting it from hive. There is more here to be put together, for example, music, the bunker, the map, maybe, just maybe, the numbers lead to coordinates?

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          • If you look through the destiny data base there are a number of classified items. Some are legendary parts which could be tied to a mission to obtain the weapon. There is also a classified mission in the data base, data mined to reward gun smith rep and unknown rewards. My guess is, that sleeper stimulant is tied to rep with banshee or on a timer release by bungie.

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          • It looked like a Rasputin type design

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          • I think that's some interesting and probably true deduction. Though I'm glad you don't need 50 of them to get it. The 50 pieces is for the Touch Of Malice

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            • But why?

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              • great post! i've found 4 of the dvalin weapons and noticed that they have similar icons to pocket infinity? so i got pocket infinity out of the vault and started using it again, the weapon description caught my eye; "You cannot shake the feeling that this is less a weapon than a doorway.". also the pocket infinity perk has Rasputin's logo as the image. Tinfoil time: maybe we have to use the pocket infinity to shoot a specific door or in a specific place in order to trigger the quest? or perhaps during the mission were you re enter bunker war-4? This is probably a load of rubbish, but i thought it was interesting at the very least.

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                • It means it doesn't kill it forces fake sleep

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                  • I've gotten 4 or 5 of these things I wish I would have kept them

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                  • I've got a few theories to add although most are way overthought: 1. Banshee talks about hearing music which seems to reference Rasputin (loves ballet) 2. In "the Promethean Code" if you try to go to where Omnigul was, Cayde says something like the good stuff is below us. Could be reference to hidden weapons. 3. There is also a flashing light further down that hallway (in the room with the cylinders submersed In fluid) that blinks in a pattern of 3's which could be Morse code for S.S or Sleeper Simulate. 4. A scannable console refers to the weapons testing lab. Seems to be where the giant shank is. 5. Lot of references to 7 in rasputin's bunker with their being 7 letters in sleeper. (7 working lights with broken one or area 4&3 which equal 7) there is a dead ghost behind the 7 lights. It's a high jump halfway through the instance. 6. Dead ghost in vent right before boss on Rasputin strike

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                    • I've figured something out with the strange coin that I haven't read online. Just gotta tie it to the coordinates.

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                    • Has anyone looked into the collectors edition. The scramblings and maps along with directions. Main part i tried to follow was the instructions to follow steps in specific directions and degrees. The final left stating to observe and collect the data once you've reached the "x" Now it starts with you beginning near a crashed ship. Assuming it means the crashed space ship you see in the partol spawn of the cosmodrone. But what i noticed on one of fhe maps in the collectors edition was an old sale boat. So the term ship could be relative in the sense that i thought maybe he means one of the ships that had washed upon shore in the forgotten shore. There are three there amd the one in the first location. I searched everything in the first. Couldnt trigger anything. Briefly scoured the forgotten shore at each ships (did not follow specific steps or degree. Takes a while. End step explains that you'd end up due south of the starting point.) I have each of the four current devs xxx fr 1 2 3 and 4. And i didnt notice the music clue im reading about. So this makes me wonder about the first mission where you scan the modules that play classical music. Played the mission on hard. Couldn't find anything though. So no im assuming you have to find the right patrol becaon. I dont know where it'll end up (my current end theory ) but somewhere in the cosmodrone a beacon will have one of the observations objectives. But this beacon should be emitting faint music. The hopes then that it would lead you to the final step in the hunt (travel in i think it was 308 direction and end up due south of starting point.) Where you'd observe and gather data. At which point this simple patrol mission would then immediately trigger a memory from banshee. Maybe the music and the area is what triggers a locked memory fragment. To the end where he remembers how to obtain, or where he hid (like the devilishly sneaky cayde-6) the final fifth piece. Could end in a simple track amd retrieve or another mission with different variations. Ill probably look into this more tonight or tomorrow.

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                      • I've turned in 4 now, looking for a fifth. I think they may have something to do with Gunsmith Ranks. After I ranked up to 2 I almost immediately found a piece. And then slightly later I found another. Maybe you're only allowed to find 2 per Gunsmith Rank? I haven't tested it so this is speculation of course

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                        • Can you look up which ones you already found? I got one in the SABRE boss fight from one of the shanks and one from a cabal in the Variks quest mission where you get rushed by Cabal (where the tank is in the Valus Tra'aug strike).

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                          • After you have gotten all 4 go on patrol to earth, the forgotten shore. You should see a patrol beacon with the target symbol. When your close to that beacon you can still here he music. Anyhow, take down the target. The sub plot is that he has an ancient artifact of the golden age. Hope this helps. I'm working on the next steps anyway possible

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                            • Amazing!

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                            • Wheeeeeew tinfoil hats everywhere in this thread!

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                              • I'm thinking that it is based on reset. I haven't heard anyone getting over 4 yet. Perhaps a way to slow down the progress so everyone did not have Sleeper first week?

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