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Edited by The LastGuardian: 7/26/2015 3:01:23 PM
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Day 1 players with grimmoire above 3,000 who thought Jellyhorn should be nerfed?

I don't and personally I've done all game content both without my jellyhorns and with them but I do agree it is an exotic and as an exotic it has the right to be more powerful than a legendary and should not be nerfed! Who's with me? [quote]Yes Jellyhorn is OP because it is "AN EXOTIC" if you wanted shitty weapons then equip green or white weapons[/quote] [quote]Except in this video game, exotic doesn't mean foreign. It's the highest tier of weaponry and armor with a special perk that sets apart from others. But if you want to be technical, Gjallarhorn originated in Norse mythology. It was the Horn of Heimdall to herald in Ragnarok, or Twilight of the gods. Ragnarok saw the end of the Norse gods. So as far as foreign goes, Gjallarhorn is exotic. As far as game classification goes, it is set apart from other weapons and as far as mythology goes, I'd say it's comparable by being revered and badass. But sure having received mine after beating all game content without one, now I like to just blow shit up with it.[/quote] Edit: what really ticks me off is not the nerf itself but the fact that bungie caters to people who barely even play the game so they complain and bungie makes changes to please these people. I'm not an elitist but I've put some hours into this game and not sure about all of you but these nerfs just make it seem as though my time spent has all been for nothing when my gun is the same as a player who just bought the game yesterday...when will you stand and put a stop to all these nerfs?! Edit2: The reason why I wanted people with 3000 plus grimmoire to post on this thread because it is is us that have put in the time invested to get those coveted weapons and I wanted to see if you guys felt the same as me that all the hard work and time invested to obtain these exotics went down the drain just for the fact that new players were complaining cause they didn't have these weapons we worked so hard to obtain... Edit3: people who agree with Bungie saying this weapon is the main reason people are excluded from raids and that's why it needs to be Nerfed are idiots. First of all isn't that what bungie intended was for people to play with who they wanted and how they wanted? Furthermore the easiest way to fix that issue is for Bungie to add optional matchmaking like they were supposed to from the start. Also you think this Nerf is not gonna exclude people. Lemme tell you when I go looking for a team I exclude based on Grimmoire not weapons but hey even after this Nerf I will do the same thing so people will still get excluded. like I said this isn't going to balance shite. and it's not being an elitist when I would rather play with someone around the same level of experience as me than someone who just got the game a week ago and has already a lvl 34 character because bungie caters to scrubs like you who all you do is wine and complain why others like me won't let you play with us when it's clear you lack the weapons or the gear. Edit4: people who are bashing me for excluding using grimmoire. The reason I do this is because grimmoire to me is a baseline for experience. whenever I play a raid I know the chances of someone with 3000+ grimmoire score knowing what to do in a raid is higher than someone with less than that. I would rather take my chances on someone with high grim and assume they know what they're doing than go into a raid with someone with low grim and have to explain everything to do in a raid. of course it's not 100 percent effective but it's worked pretty well for me so far. Also when you get 9 responses from people who want to raid exclusion is going to happen regardless as you can only go into a raid with 6 people so stop trying to bash on me for something so small. Edit5: Destiny a year that was, what could've been, and what came to be: https://youtu.be/UpFxsFNGsNU
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  • Day 1, Beta player here with over 3200 grimoire, and I think it should be nerfed, not because I don't have it, but because it is OP, just look at the numbers, they don't lie

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  • 3480 beta player, I've had it since day 2 of Destiny. And I think it should. I hate the feeling of not being able to use anything else (i know I can anyway) but always get shit for it lol I love dragons breath, it's such a cool weapon but -blam!-ing everyone bitches about it. Once it's nerfed I can finally use invective it sonething during a raid without "switch to your Gally bro".

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  • 3440 grimoire here and I think it should be nerfed

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  • It's an "I win" button. It allows bad players to do work in end-game content. If you're bad, you should not get into areas where you're not going to survive without an "i win" button. It needed a nerf, same as Black Hammer. Ice breaker. . .I don't really care, it's just 18 seconds.

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    • 3660 grimoire and beta player. I do think ghorn should be nerfed (and dragon's breath should be buff). It allows bungie to create new exotic rocket launcher better or as good as ghorn without creating a stupid op weapon. But the reason given by Bungie is very bad..

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    • As already stated the exotics should be "exotic", overpowered and what every other weapon that type strives to be.

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    • you are a gaystation user & muted

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      • Xmas player with 3.3K... I did play the beta and bought the game day one but did not buy a PS4 till Xmas, I was hoping for a price drop or deal. Oh and Gjallahorn should be Buffed! It's not as good as I though it would be :'/

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      • 3605 Grimoire I think nerfing the wolf pack rounds is fine. I have a horn on each toon and after destroying the end game content time and time again it's pretty clear that the wolf packs are a bit ridiculous. I understand it's an exotic but no gun should turn end game activities into a monotonous cake-walk. Same applies to crucible and its current shameful meta, but I digress. However the changes to Black Hammer and Ice-Breaker I have more of a problem with. For me the changes to these snipers destroy the viability of what make them so unique. At least the Gally nerf as far as I know is just toning down the damage numbers on the wolf packs by a few notches and not changing the weapon and its mechanics completely. I'd be happy to wind back the clock to the beta when the game was still new, exciting and fun! Before anyone cared about all the meaningless loot and digital items and just played for the adventure. When all the Halo babies were wide eyed with anticipation for the next big shooter. Before the rivers of salt washed in all these poisonous little cry babies (not aimed at OP) and they spoilt the fun that was Destiny. Rant End.

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      • Grimoire 3550 and multiple gjallarhorn... Never asked for nerf, even when some class, weapon or boss killed me more then I liked.. I dont like all nerfs from next update, but can't be angry about it. Still just a game, and will always find another gun or whatever to use. Just playing to have fun, and maybe have the rng luck to get something good. Only thing that grind my gears is: 1. No Gjallarhorn kick look-a-like dodo's 2. Not 34 kick look-a-like ballerina's 3. Low grimoire kick look-a-like pimps 4. No mic kick look-a-like squeakers 5. Before chest poe kick look-a-like loot hoggers 6. Final round poe/end nightfall or raids kick look-a-like back stabbers Are the people that never will be legends to me.

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      • Edited by sergantsnipes05: 7/26/2015 11:38:14 PM
        People who exclude others based on a weapon tend to be bad and struggle to complete end game content. People who bitch about being excluded due to a weapon also tend to be either bad or lazy. They all say they got kicked for no gjallarhorn but usually it's cause they sucked. Find another group. I don't like bungie's reason for the nerf. They are attempting to fix the community by nerfing a weapon. I remember back when icebreaker used to be a requirement for oracles during VoG. People will always be ass hats and nerfing the most sought after weapon in the game won't fix that.

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        • I agree that it should be better than legendaries, and even with this nerf it will be because it clusters, it tracks, and it has proximity explosion. You can only get one of these perks in a normal legendary, and in a raid legendary you can get two of those. Not to mention the clusters track. So basically it is better than a legendary even with the nerf. It will still be the strongest rocket launcher post nerf. Now why I feel the nerf is necessary, and it's timing is perfect, is because when the taken king comes out how could they possibly make a weapon stronger than gjally without breaking the game. You would have to increase the health of all bosses so the normal player without gjally wouldn't be able to kill them in a reasonable amount of time. So nerf it slightly so you can make a weapon as strong as it used to be and give everyone something to grind for again. At least I hope this is why they nerfed gjally.

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        • Yes it needs/needed it. People have become so reliant upon to clear harder activities. It is nonsensical to require a ghorn for atheon or even crota. It helps but was most definitely not needed. Also no to mention the whole burning bosses before they can even retaliate..... while bullet sponge bosses are boring, an easy boss fight was and is just as bad in my opinion.

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        • It will be nerfed but still the strongest Launcher in game (for now) ... people need to realize more stuff will be coming out and eventually Gally will be obsolete. .. i have yet to have one but , with TTK and other expansions coming ... Gally will eventually die

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        • yes nerf ples

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        • I understand your frustration, but find it sad that you've dedicated such a large wall of text to complaining about a video game. There are far worse things in life my friend.

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        • Yeah , I agree the title is doesn't make much sense as far as grimoire judging experience. I'm not a day one player and I started about 3 months after destiny's release but I have a 3000+ grimoire score.

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          • I agree

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          • Um day one player. It has never dropped for me and I don't know when it will. I've done raids and all the end game content minus skolas in PoE. (Can't get a team). Now I have been kicked and scorned for not having the good ol' g-horn. That's why they are nerfing the wolf pack rounds. Not the whole launcher just a small section of it. People need to get off of their high elitist attitude and understand that most people don't have 5-10 hours a day to play destiny. And honestly why would I? I have a job, gf, and friends. I don't have the time to sit in front of a tv like that.

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          • Edited by TimboLextown: 7/26/2015 11:44:58 PM
            The problem with nerfing these guns is now nothing is special. They're all just decent to worse. Become legend with your decent weapons, guardian! ,

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          • Honestly. I'd prefer it to be on par with other exotics. Would be nice to use other weapons for a change. Fatebringer, VoC, Word of Crota Shotgun of choice, Black Hammer, Ice Breaker Hunger of Crota, Ghallahorn. For PvE, thats pretty much the only weapons you need to be OP.

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          • I'm anti-nerf, period. It's a lazy, regressive approach. Always balance up, never down. Add to the player experience, not diminish it.

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            • Gjallarhorn will still be the best, just not a literal nuke. Bungie said they wanted to keep its legacy.

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            • "Grimoire above 3000" Get a life, you don't have to hunt ghosts to beat all end game content nerd

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              • Edited by Benzene21: 7/26/2015 11:02:42 PM
                your grimoire requirement is a joke. grimoire has nothing to do with skills. experience? sometimes. grimoire is mostly you wanting to get them. you get grimoire in crucible, so if you don't play pvp you will miss a lot of cards. you also get grimoire from ghosts, so if you don't care about hunting ghosts, you will miss more than 70 cards. you get cards from playing different classes, using different weapons, etc. you can have one character playing just pve with the same weapons and STILL have a lot of experience. grimoire score is MISLEADING. take me for example. I don't have a 3,000 score, but look at my characters and how many raids and POE I have done. the only exotics I am missing are 3 you get from exotic bounties because they haven't dropped for me. When I join groups I don't care about grimoire, so I am pretty sure I have done raids with people that don't have a super high score. it's the most inaccurate way to measure skills and experience.

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                • I do believe it should be nerfed. Like bungie said it literally designated who could join groups and who couldn't.

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