So I just got done with the story for the third time, and I payed a little extra attention to what the stranger had to say in the cinematics ... And my mind suddenly latched on to something that should have been obvious since day one, and I had a new theory. What if "the stranger" is actually "the traveler"?
Thoughts, opinions, and all various forms of slagging may now commence, thank you for your time.
So everyone can see the process without having to dig through the replies:
Okay, so here's the thought train. She was there when you were raised by your ghost, and watched you escape (tutorial end), and just the way she watched you, thinking back, she knew where to be.
The way she speaks about certain things makes her seem time lost, and her doubts about you seem to support the time lost theory too, trapped in a specific cycle, and stuff like that. [quote]...i know what you're about to do, should you succeed, come find me[/quote] or something along those lines. (My recall isn't perfect)
Then when you meet her again "I wasn't forged in the light" and many aspects of her personality are [b][i]too[/i][/b] human to be exo, never mind awoken, yet she gives off an air of disappointment and desperation, kind of like a parent who's sad at your failures, but desperate to help you stay alive, and succeed.
Now, after you do succeed, the stranger basically tells you she's seen what lays beyond your newly reclaimed worlds, but the way she says it makes her seem as old as time itself, then hands you a new tool with which to venture forth, and looks at you with just a shade of pride... Then walks straight toward the traveler, off the loading dock, and "phases out" just like your ghost appears and disappears.
Now, supporting strategy for my theory;
you are a massive entity, fighting your fight against an adversary that outmatched you time and again, you find the one place where the indigenous populace is actually stubborn and tenacious enough to maybe, just maybe, hold your enemy at bay. So you help them with everything they would need to stand and fight, but in so doing you make them softer than you intended. So once more your enemy surrounds you, and you join your new "children" in defending your new home, and yourself. You are wounded beyond simple repair, and dying, the energy you need to maintain your whole body being to great a strain on what reserves you have... So you make yourself smaller, to save energy, to survive, and to very slowly mend your wounds. You split yourself into smaller, sustainable parts... You take new forms for yourself so you aren't trapped in one place, but you live in many places at the same time. The stranger and her crew maybe, or at least one or two of them... And finally... The ghosts themselves, protected by their guardians... Who for the light they receive... They return a thousand fold to you and your still healing body.
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I think she is a lot more than she seems but personally I think she works for the big R
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....do you even comprehend, bro?
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2 RepliesEdited by Shadow: 4/10/2015 5:19:40 PMYou think bungee can generate something that good on thier own? Basing off the decisions, choices, and advances they have made so far? You give them too much credit. The answer is simple. There is no story, hell its not even progressing whatsoever.
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Nah strangers a time traveler from the future the kyle reese if this was terminator we are sarah connor trying to stop the travelers destruction and her future
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Edited by Striker93175: 4/10/2015 5:11:24 PMWay too intelligent for destiny. After all she is also the one who tells you that she doesn't have time to explain why she doesn't have time to explain. Using your theory we all carry a dinklebot traveler with us and there by have ample ample time for detailed explaination. We pick up comms from her via dinklebot... There is plenty of time for a nice detailed phone call. Yet nothing.
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2 RepliesWould be cool if the Stranger was still in the story. They just replaced her with Eris and started a new thread. Thanks, Bungie.
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2 RepliesIs it not more likely she was one of the FWC test subjects used to see into future? The lore describes how human subject were unable to survive the rigours of the test. Then of course there is the possibility that she is part of a causality loop since the lore associated with her suggests she witnesses the same reality replayed out. Of course this also supports the FWC test subject theory. Read the cards!
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1 ReplyThis has been brought up multiple times now
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3 RepliesGuardians are supposed to protect their ghosts? I use mine as bait.
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Dude bungie and Activision are not that creative
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1 ReplySolid theory Gotta love bnet members Especially destiny players There are some deep thinkers here
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I buy the time travel bit. And each shift back and forth in time has a slightly different iteration of reality due to slight variations of events. Hence her uncertainty when telling you the bit about if you succeed. Though - it is not a far stretch to guess that your guardian was going to go down and fight. I just love her and want to hear more from her.... Maybe a mission where you work coop with her....
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1 ReplyYou're reading far too much into a non-existent story lol ;)
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8 RepliesEdited by JoebAKL: 4/10/2015 3:01:22 AMPlease read: Ghost fragment; Future war cult Ghost fragment; Exo Stranger Ghost fragment; Exo If you do not own these grimoire cards you can use my profile to view them, they are under allies and guardian. My opinion is that the future war cult is trying to find a way to defeat the darkness, and their experimental attempts to look into the future continuously failed due to the weak human minds. They found a Broken Exo from Siberia, and remade her. Then conducted the experiment on her. Obviously the experiment had different outcome from the earlier trials because the grimoire ominously ends without detail. Taking the grim card "Exo" into account the ability to put together an Exo takes a lot of smarts! But we also learn from the card that Exo's were made for war. This may be the connection to Future war cult, and their investments into the Exo race. (Hinting at their faction representative) this is the strongest connection I can find Because they never actually mentioned in the "future war cult" card that they found an "Exo". Which brings forth the Stranger's "not forged of light" line... Let's start looking at more facts and details involving the "Exo stranger" card. She explains that she has basically has had this experience over and over and over, but! Each time there are slight differences. (Slight differences include walking across the surface of Mars, but the mountains are eroded differently every time) I believe she can jump time and space and she runs a new timeline every time the darkness wins. I'm sure that in her findings she has found that we (the character) is the closest thing to beating the darkness. This leads her to following the different versions of us. (Making this games customization a part of the story having 3 characters) tracking each new guardians timelines endlessly searching for the one in which we triumph(because in the grand scheme of things, we will, we are the main character) ....Anyways The Exo stranger is a Future War Cult experiment, that has time jumping powers in which she farms timelines to find the one timeline that we finally defeat the Darkness. Edit for grammar
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3 RepliesThe stranger is praedyth *Ming blown*
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Fun theory but the stranger is the first exo designed and made by the future war cult to travel to the future through technology they acquired. Traveling through sayed device would kill a human because of high physical strain. She uses the device and blinks to the future seeing a war stricken land lost to the darkness and all hope lost. Hence the FWC lust for power, the exo has no light because she was not chosen to be a guardian she was designed as a tool. Exo did not receive light untill after the traveler shined its light to create the golden age. The technology allowing her to travel to the future also allows her to travel past and present. And in grimoir it sayes in her visit to the future she is a ghost an untouchable entity watching a war as a shadow in the middle. She brought with her a weapon from the future a technology the FWC hides AKA the strangers rifle. Sorry man no traveler just a time shifting vessel and its hard not to trust something that has been to the end of time and back.
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Your player is the stranger
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Nah, it doesn't seem likely. By the way, in one of the Exo Grimoire cards, Exos are shown to be just as human as anyone else. The Stranger's human-like characteristics aren't really anything special.
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Hm :/ idk how I feel about this one There is a lot we don't know about the traveller but I'm hoping this one isn't one of them lol
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Edited by HIGGZY420: 4/10/2015 7:34:00 AMMaybe she's the travellers right hand women, the ending kinda strange how she disappears and rockets into the traveller
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2 RepliesWhat about the cutscene when she was talking to that person after you encountered the vex for the first time. Maybe she's like the travelers right hand woman??
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2 RepliesYou realize that exos are actually real people right? People uploaded their consciousness into a machine to "live" forever. It's hinted at in the grimoire
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But she was not forged in light, and the traveller is a big 'ol ball of light.
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3 RepliesAlso, if the traveler is trying to speak to us directly, then what does that say about the speaker?
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3 RepliesThat is a great theory! Makes me want to replay some of the cut scenes