I have skill, and the cheese still works when I do it. Your post is false information.

You care way too much about what everyone else is doing

0/10

What console?

Take advantage of the fact that you can basically solo the raid. Its faster, easier, doesnt require you to beg your friends to help you after they have already done it. I cheese the hell out of him, phogoth, archon priest. Any cheese there is, ill do it. They way I look at it is; we pay money for this game, and dlc, we play however we want. And i dont think beating crota requires skill. At the end of the day, when we beat crota, we turn off our controller with the push of a button and walk away from the tv. That my friend is not skill. Moving thumbsticks in different directions for a few hours is really not that big of a deal. People take destiny wayyyyy too serious. Its fun to play, seems like more people look at it like a 2nd or 3rd job. Just invite your friends to a party and laugh your way through the raid. That to me, is what gaming is about.

Stop complaining who cares it's a game people who cheese crota don't such but Ur mom sucks like a vacuum cleaner stop crying cause u can't beat it when the hard one comes out it will b fixed ibgeuss Ur still level 31 baby

Just wait til they patch it...complaining isint going to solve your little problem.

Raid Idea. What if the hive captured an Archon Priest and engulfed him in Darkness like they did to the Traveler Fragment in that one mission. As a raid we go in seeking to destroy this potential monster but we're to late and they finish this Hive infested Archon Priest. We fight it. 1. This Raid require a Raid teams of each sub class 2. Unlike other raids , the Raid team will be split in two. Each team will start in their own remote locations at the start of the raid to do their own missions/task. 3.This raid will take place in the world of the Hive, in order to get there the void walker warlock of the team will invade the Hellmouth to find a relic the Praxis Warlocks have discovered to be called a Philosopher Stone. The Warlock will have to fight it from the grips of high wizard called Excall, The Witch. This warlock will be accompanied by the Bladedancers Hunter and Defender Titan. * If Excall is not killed by the VoidWalker, then he will revive himself ( In a Weaker form) and become Burr, The Wizard.* 4. The Sunsinger Warlock, Gunslinger Hunter and Striker Titan will also invade the Hellmouth to The strike room in order to wait for the other team to finish. Only there's something wating. The Wizards have ressurected Phogoth ( sacrificing themselves actually by the compulsion of oryx) and he is now Phogoth, the reborn. This time he remembers his death by guardians and now he roars the name of Vengence. But he's also out of control. He attacks everything, Knights , Wizards , everything. In order to stop this new phogoth the guardians must attack him with their supers all at once. When both bosses are done. The Voidwalker will use the philosopher stone to transport His team to the Strike room, then surging up all his void power , he rips a hole in space and the team ventures to give world. 5. When we get to the Hive world we find it in a War zone. The Fallen have invaded the world and has laid sieged to the world. We fight through waves and both fallen and Hive as our Ghost work in Union to track the Archon priest. As we go along we discover how the fallen got there and discover a house of fallen even more powerful than we know. ( so powerful they took Mercury from the Cabal.) they want their second priest back. 6. As we get closer, we fight Kells and ultimately a Prime Servitor ( that's so badass that it fights High Knights And Lots of orges.) 7. We defeat them all and ultimately reach the archon priest who is Dark- infested and powerful. He battles Captains and Servitors , Knights and Acyeolytes. Then ultimately us 8. We fight him, purging him of his darkness by using a rotation of supers( which will be multiplied due to a mysterious power: the striker & defender will lead the attack by first fist of havocing which electrifies him is arc energy , the defender will then Pop a bubble and the hunters will take over. The Blade dancer will take on the archon in a melee battle as the gunslinger fires at him ( the gunslinger and blade dancer will strike as many times until the timer for them runs out) the staggering archon will then fall under wrath of the warlocks. The Voidwalker will send everything at him, grenades, melees, everything. The Voidwalker will also do so while nova bombing him continuously. This will be done 3 times. 9.After the third ,as we drop his Heath were suddenly stopped in place by a cloud of darkness. That lifts us, oryx appears and stops the war, he englifes the archon priest in darkness and the priest vanishes. Oryx turns to us and there's nothing we can do.... Until Toland appears. He hits Oryx with his own super and is revealed to be the force behind our super light in that world. He gives us his ghost and tells the Voidwalker ghost to use the philosopher stone to teleport them out. As we teleport we see Toland cloak in Bright light and face oryx.

Are you on Xbox one? If so I will help you bring people through legit. I have yet to do the Raid this week on any of my 31's because everyone wants to do it by cheesing. I want to get loot but I also play it for the fun. I would like to have a regular group that want's to do it the right way. I don't care if people cheese I just prefer doing it how it is designed. I do not see the fun in glitching the game at Crota or skipping the bridge which is very easy and fun. My GT is pr0di jay1

I'll wear it proudly, Thank RnGesus for making me a believer

Judging by ur scores you my Need 2 go back to COD

Those who feel the need to come here and create a thread to judge people is what is really sad.

We did Crota legit last night with a 32 Hunter sword bearer. It took one and a half swords in about three minutes. Honestly I think that was faster than the disconnect exploit.

My team cheesed Crota once and have tried it legit since then without doing the cheese.Last night we did the whole raid up to Crota and almost killed him to bump into another problem, after that wipe we just seemed to not get back on track. But we will have it down before hard comes out.

I'm in! we are looking for a couple guys to add to a team to do Crota's end without cheesing. We haven't viewed any youtubes, so want to figure it out. I'd like to play it straight up and beat it. I like a challenge. XboxOne: ShadowMac

I need to beat crota legit this week. Have the cp, please add frreakk if you see this. I'm lvl 31 titan.

I understand OP. I'm lactose intolerant too :( Can't be having any cheese with my Crota kills.

Hey, bungies not doing me any favors... They constantly give me Energies when I really need shards. There gonna cheat me, then I'm gonna cheat them.

No one cares. People just cheese for times sake no other reason.

Sounds like a good challenge. I'd do it.

This guy has some sense