A tier list based on the usefulness in PvP and PVE. Discuss.
free to agree or disagree, and say why.
God Tier:
- Gjallarhorn
- Hawkmoon
- Vex Mythoclast
Tier A:
- Ice Breaker
- Red Death
- Thorn
- Bad Juju
- Thunderlord
- Plan C
- Truth
Tier B:
- MIDA Multi-Tool
- Suros Regime
- Pocket Infinity
- The Last Word
- Patience And Time
Tier C
- Hard Light
- Monte Carlo
- Invective
- Dragon's Breath
Tier D:
- Super Good Advice
- Universal Remote
Tier E:
- No Land Beyond
- 4th Horseman
- Necrochasm
[b]EDIT #1[/b] Moved [i][u]Hard Light[/u][/i] from Tier D to Tier C. Moved [i][u]Pocket Infinity[/u][/i] from Tier C to Tier B. Moved [i][u]The Last Word[/u][/i] from Tier C to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Bad JuJu[/u][/i] from Tier D to Tier B.
[b]EDIT #2[/b] Moved [i][u]Patience And Time[/u][/i] from Tier C to Tier B. Moved [i][u]Invective[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier C. Moved [i][u]The Last Word[/u][/i] from Tier A to Tier B.
[b]Edit #3[/b] Moved [i][u]Thunderlord[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier A. Also, to the people who say I took this from Datto, [b]STFU[/b]. He posted that Tier list yesterday and this thread was [i][u][b]CLEARLY[/b][/u][/i] made before that. So no, I'm not giving him props for making a list a couple weeks after I made one. Thanks.
[b]EDIT #4[/b] Moved [i][u]Vex Mythoclast[/u][/i] from Tier A to God Tier. Moved [i][u]Ice Breaker[/u][/i] from God Tier to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Plan C[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Truth[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Red Death[/u][/i] from Tier C to Tier B. Moved [i][u]Dragon's Breath[/u][/i] from Tier D to Tier C.
[b]EDIT #5[/b] Where do we place [i][u]Necrochasm[/u][/i]?
[b]EDIT #6[/b] Added [i][u]Necrochasm[/u][/i] to Tier E. Also, what do you guys think about the weapons now after the patch? Surely BJ and Red Death will go up
[u][b]EDIT #7[/b][/u] Moved [i][u]Bad Juju[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Red Death[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier A. Moved [i][u]Suros Regime[/u][/i] from Tier A to Tier B. Moved [i][u]Monte Carlo[/u][/i] from Tier B to Tier C. Moved [i][u]Universal Remote[/u][/i] from Tier E to Tier D. Moved [i][u]4Th Horseman[/u][/i] from Tier D to Tier E.
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vex is in god tier
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disagree because each weapon is suited for different situations. I did notice the 'god tier' weapons are all for mid to long range while the bottom tier are for close range? exception being NLB lol its just not that good.
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I love hawkmoon but it in no way should be in the top tier.
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Edited by Illuminati: 12/28/2014 8:18:58 PMDragons Breath and Truth should switch places, at least PVE wise. Truth lacks the damage after time ability of Dragon's Breath. You don't need tracking to hit some trash mobs.
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1 ReplyRed Death needs to be moved to Tier B. It's pretty good in PvE, and it's very underrated in the crucible. If it is used in PvP you can cause major damage.
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Silly thread because everyone plays differently. I use many of these weapons conditionally and all have pros and cons.
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1 ReplyPlace Black Hammer in God tier.
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Truth should be moved to Tier C, because it's only good once you get the truth upgrade, and even then not so much. It's only really valuable in PvP. In addition, lt looks and sounds like crap.
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1 ReplyUniversal remote should make it to tier D. It's really good in pvp.
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Patience and time should be tier B
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Id move down suros and invective and move up red death and thunderlord. And probably SGA as well.
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10 RepliesEdited by njl4515: 12/25/2014 2:49:49 PMThis is a hard list because of the difference in PvP and PvE. Red Death and Patience and Time are so good in PvP, they may deserve to be in Tier B. Patience and Time almost DEFINITELY deserves to be in Tier B. I'd say MIDA and Bad JuJu go down to Tier C. The 4th Horseman and Universal Remote actually have some decent PvP value and may need to go up a notch. No Land Beyond should be the only Tier E as it is god damn worthless. Also, might get crap for this, but Suros should be Tier B. It's a god tier PvP gun but I'd use almost every single other gun over Suros in PvE. Edit: and no shotgun should be above Tier C. No use in PvE.
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2 RepliesEdited by puppyk1sses: 12/25/2014 3:57:25 PM-Vex is absolutely top tier. Shreds PVE and PVP -TLW is B. Useless in PVE. -MIDA is A solidly -P&T is B. -No Land Beyond is D, can be good in PVP. -I'd consider putting Plan C in A tier -SGA is probably lowest tier, not useful for anything -Invective is C, aweful in PVE -Truth is C, see Invective Other than that, pretty solid list. I've put a lot of thought into ranking then myself too.
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Edited by ninjawarlord0: 12/27/2014 4:35:35 AMI think Thorn (which isn't on the list at all) after the buff should probably be up with the last word in tier A or B Edit: I obviously can't read since I just checked again and it's there already
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Edited by Britton: 12/25/2014 5:11:44 PMInvective is not special at all. It should be out in tier C. Red death is has that awesome healing perk. And should be bumped up to tier B. Also mida has nothing that you cant replace with any othet decent legendary scout rifle. It's a tier C weapon too.
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2 RepliesPatience and Time should be higher. I personally like it better than ice breaker. Sure it doesn't regenerate ammo, but it has almost no recoil and if youre a fan of invisibility like i am, its super fun to use.
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I would move truth up one level it is a PVP monster. Total Ron Popille treatment set it and forget it guaranteed kill. Otherwise I love the list
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Red death B man
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1 ReplyEdited by ECH0-76x: 12/26/2014 4:31:43 PMLast word and Mida need to move down one spot. Edit: And hawkmoon down one too. Its good, but not god tier
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I would move Vex up, TLW down, Pocket Infinity up, Invective down, Red Death up, Universal Remote up, and dismantle NLB. Can't speak to Hard Light. Whilst I use P&T and love it, it is a tier C because it's really just a great PVP weapon.
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Bad Juju should be tier A. Or at least A in PvE only since it can charge your super fast.
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I have almost all of those i do have all of God and tier A
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5 RepliesMIDA tier A. It is better than Suros!
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6 RepliesSwap Mida multi tool and last word. Mida is way more versatile
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7 RepliesMIDA a tier B? Wtf find anyone good with it and you can destroy almost anyone using tier A XD
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1 ReplyHard light deserves much more credit. Over penetrating rounds! Have you ever used this beast against a horde of thrills? No! Because thralls are scarred to gather with this monster on the prowl. Let's not forget that when fully upgraded it has an easily manageable recoil resulting in easy crits. I have mythoclast and still use this beauty.