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4/20/2013 4:38:53 AM
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That's so awesome! It's great to see personality in the police, especially during hardships like these.
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I am glad we are raising the next generation to be excited by having their residences raided by authorities.
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I once high fived a man who shot down a plane in 9/11. No joke.
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Edited by The Arbiter: 4/21/2013 1:57:13 PMFucking adorable.
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Daw :3
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Thats awesome!
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holy christ, that is adorable as hell
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At least they have that over the Gestapo, though the Gestapo may have done things like this and I'm just not aware.
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How would a libertarian society react to the Boston bombings?
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[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YxR3ytbX2xU#!]Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain[/url].
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Edited by Quantum: 4/20/2013 8:23:03 AMNevermind... stupid update...
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How did any other society prevent it? I don't technically claim to be libertarian, but we don't sacrifice freedoms for a false sense of security and increased incompetence. I dare argue this may have never occurred in a libertarian society.
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[quote]How did any other society prevent it? [/quote] Police presence, government management, etc [quote] I don't technically claim to be libertarian, but we don't sacrifice freedoms for a false sense of security and increased incompetence. I dare argue this may have never occurred in a libertarian society.[/quote] It would certainly occur in a libertarian society, where there are less restrictions, not more. And it would be worse.
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Police are basically glorified investigators. Diligent citizens are the true police. We all have the ability. You're missing many variables. Freedom is the surest way to security, not the other way around. Citizens would be able to act against any threat, no one would want to risk it. We would also be more prosperous so people would be less likely to have problems that drive them to this.
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Edited by Quantum: 4/20/2013 9:14:18 AM[quote]Police are basically glorified investigators. Diligent citizens are the true police. We all have the ability. [/quote] ->Police too powerful ->Glorified investigators No. You are contradicting yourself. [quote]You're missing many variables. Freedom is the surest way to security, not the other way around. Citizens would be able to act against any threat, no one would want to risk it. We would also be more prosperous so people would be less likely to have problems that drive them to this.[/quote] Which is why highest gun ownership rates in the world make the United States the safest place in the world, right? CAUSE FREEDOM SOLVES EVERYTHING GUIZE
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When did I say the police are too powerful?They are equal to citizens. While we're number one in gun ownership we're 28th in gun crime. You only helped my point. Besides, MOST gun violence and violence in general stems from our horrific drug and prostitution laws.
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[quote]When did I say the police are too powerful?They are equal to citizens.[/quote] Police are a section of the ruling body... [quote] While we're number one in gun ownership we're 28th in gun crime. You only helped my point. [/quote] Compared to 200 countries in the world, America is 28th off the bottom? The 27 countries that are worse are 3rd world countries? How is this helping your point again? [quote] Besides, MOST gun violence and violence in general stems from our horrific drug and prostitution laws.[/quote] What you are referring to is crime in general. Gun crime has a very specific cause: the large availability and easy access to firearms.
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You're missing many variables. If guns CAUSED crime and violence, why are we not number one? Again, other laws are the cause for the problem, because they restrict freedom. I'm fine with gun crime if it means I'm safer and can protect myself. Besides, I'd be a fool to think people wouldn't murder without firearms.
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Edited by Quantum: 4/20/2013 9:33:06 AM[quote]You're missing many variables. If guns CAUSED crime and violence, why are we not number one? Again, other laws are the cause for the problem, because they restrict freedom. [/quote] It is not the only cause, that I have discussed in numerous other threads as well. However, it is a large one. It isn't number one because other countries are literally lawless in some parts. I'm fairly sure none of them are Western nations, either. [quote] I'm fine with gun crime if it means I'm safer and can protect myself. Besides, I'd be a fool to think people wouldn't murder without firearms.[/quote] Guns increase death tolls over all other weapons, though.
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But look where firearms can do well, like Kennesaw, GA. I again have to say that the key is education, awareness and instilling responsibility. Let us end the horrific war on drugs and prostitution, restore our freedoms and instead of glamorizing these products, instead educate on the harms as well as the benefits. Lets not be biased, but instead allow people to make their own, hopefully educated choices. You know why? Because prohibition causes far more harm than drugs ever will. That is simple reality.
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I have already debunked the Kennesaw GA thing in previous debates FYI.
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What?
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Ah, not with you, if I remember correctly.
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I think the biggest factor is that libertarians are (typically) non-interventionists, so their society would be far less likely to suffer backlash for meddling in affairs on the other side of the world.
