originally posted in:Outer Heaven
The ending. It is part of the reason why ME3's ending didn't feel all that bad for me (although it was still bad), I had already lived through a bad ending for one of my favorite franchises before.
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What was so bad about it though? The Patriots were stopped, Snake defeated Liquid, and everything was at peace.. ...Until 4 years later when Rising happened.
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"Hello son. I just want to let you know that Ocelot was actually a hero and you were a tool all along, and your failure to stop the nuclear launch against the Patriot satellite was a good thing. I was also a good guy all along, not someone who became misguided and disillusioned with the world, and everything can be blamed on this old man in this wheel chair, instead of accepting that the world is various states of grey with every faction or country, even the United States, trying to achieve their own ends at the cost of innocent lives or their own soldiers who have pledged their loyalty to their cause. Also, your nanomachines aren't going to kill anyone, you can happily retire and don't need to make a heroic sacrifice to stop FoxDie. That whole subplot is now irrelevant. Now I'm going to kill this old man and then die, essentially coming back from the dead simply to deliver a monologue." Worse than Starchild IMO.
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[quote]Worse than Starchild IMO.[/quote] I'm not even going to start
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[quote]I'm not even going to start[/quote] Because you know you have nothing to say.
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Oh, I have a lot to say about ME3. But I won't. After ~30 page debates on the BSN, ~10 page debates here, and writing legitimate essays about ME3's failures, I've given up arguing about it. Let's just meet in the middle and say Mass Effect 1 was brilliant.
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One of those people too, eh? I remember the whole "Retake Mass Effect" thing, and all we got was a lousy "Extended Cut" which was just garbage. The indoc theory at least fit with the game's lore. Also (@ Scottus), one of the worst characters in a AAA is the SpaceBrat. Shepard seeing so many people die, and just one dumb kid makes him get psychologically damaged, not any of the people that he was close to, but just one child that then some AI takes the form of. Anyways, on another note, how is MGS4? Never actually played the series, lol (and have no opinion on it one way or the other, but might pick it up).
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Yeah I see your point. Kojima had to tie up every loose end and I guess he got a bit muddled up along the way.