[quote]How can one morally justify not giving life a chance to occur?[/quote] The thought that goes through my mind is that if's an ethical crime not giving life a chance to occur, then women are serial killers for allowing eggs to go unfertilized. Men are committing genocide on a massive scale, even if they aren't masturbating. You talk of selfishness, but isn't it selfish to bend a person's will to your own? Isn't it selfish to force a child to be born and raised into world were their own mother does not want them and struggles to provide the basic of necessities for them? Not to mention that such a child has all the makings of becoming a burden on society as an adult. Stuck in increasingly overcrowded prison's because he flaunts the laws and morals of society and steals and kills.

Now, you're getting it!

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Exactly. This life isn't about us. It's about our children. The planet belongs to them and we're just borrowing it. Our kids are going to be so pissed if we don't let them get borned.

By that logic they are just borrowing the planet too seeing as they'll become adults and have children of their own.

You catch on quick. Please tell me you didn't really think I'd use the phrase "get borned" seriously?