Hunters are the “always pick”?!
Hunters are the worst class in the game right now. Titans and warlocks fry hunters when it comes to utility. Especially titans, they’re overpowered.
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Hunters are definitely more OP than titans, invis, heal on dodge, reload on dodge, get melee back on dodge, disorient on dodge. Titans have.....a wall.....that's weak and they can't shoot through without an exotic Warlocks are solid. They're not 'OP' but their skill ceiling is much higher than the other 2
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Titans have a portable wall, that can be popped anywhere, and that can give them and their whole team an oversheild. They have titan skating. They have bubble and burning maul. Two of the best comp and trials supers They have shoulder charge, an all around great ability. They get to spec into resilience without trade off, the best stat in the game. How do they only have a wall?
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[quote]Titans have a portable wall, that can be popped anywhere, and that can give them and their whole team an oversheild[/quote] Hunters have a "portable" invis and heal ability, they have a smoke bomb that can make them and their team invis. Warlocks have a portable rift that can be popped anywhere and that can give them and their whole team an overshield or increased damage. [quote]They have titan skating.[/quote] So do warlocks [quote]They have bubble and burning maul. Two of the best comp and trials supers[/quote] Warlocks have Well, brood weaver, stasis one, nova bomb. Hunters have tether, GG, arc staff that deflects everything, S&S [quote]They have shoulder charge, an all around great ability.[/quote] Icarus dash, dodge [quote]They get to spec into resilience without trade off, the best stat in the game.[/quote] Warlocks literally have recovery, resilience does next to nothing for you in pvp [i]next...[/i]
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See I feel the complete opposite. This may be down to our skill level and the people we work lay in PVP. Overall I do see a lot of rinse and repeat hunters in PVP all running the same builds. Just like PK’s (I thought they were cringe) it’s not fun when PVP is the same thing match after match. Me personally I’m a very anti meta player, I love switching it up and using different guns,abilities and supers to see what’s fun to use. This is just how I play. I don’t get how people play the same builds over and over. Not that there is anything wrong with that but when it’s a META YT Build I think that’s cringe. Hunters have alot more utility in PVP than the other classes and if you don’t believe that they had to nerf two of your sub classes as Bungie themselves said “This play-style has an unhealthy uptime for ability usage”. It’s wrong to say otherwise my friend. If you want more examples of why it’s most definitely a hunter meta ask and I shall share. This is only for 6’s NOT comp or Trio’s. I would say Well and bubble do need a nerf in those types of PVP match types. I would say it’s boring seeing people only play that.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/15/2024 8:17:55 PMI’m going to delve into just this one titan class to save time and characters. Defender titan ability kit: Bubble (free round win in trials, free 50 points in collision) Barricades (Already the best class ability in the game, also gives you a +40 hp OS for you and your team.) Shoulder charge (Huge lunge, big damage, doubles as a movement ability.) The jump (titan skating works on both controller and MNK, MNK skating is faster) Void Grenades (scatter grenades are pocket nukes) Stats (Titan REWARDS you for building into 100 resilience, this is the best stat in the game.) That is every damn thing on the class being the best or very close to the best. What do you want? A free win button? People throw around the word “utility”, when in reality hunter only has movement and strand. Titan quite literally has everything. Bungie’s stated opinion on “game health” doesn’t mean much to me. They lied like 3 or 4 times about how AE actually worked, they pull statements out of their butts to appease more hardcore players while trying to cater to casuals who will spend more money on lower quality content. It’s been their business model for awhile now.
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Edited by TBONE: 5/17/2024 7:20:09 AMDoes 100 resilience stop hand cannon’s 3 tapping No. most people can hit their shots. Again this is 6’s Not trio’s. You say hunters are slower than titans?! okay ahaha Shoulder charge has a big effect for getting close to the target that’s the point of it. It’s not spammable or worth using most of the time as in most matches it’s pretty much a high damage punch for death outcome. Bubble loses to so many supers and other abilities Again with barricade run sundering or the other mod to destroy placed items. Everyone has access to the same grenades. You may need to learn how to play against the play style where they are always stood behind a barricade or bubble. A still target is far easier to hit than a moving one.
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In terms of speed hunters lose to titans who lose to warlocks. Hunters do have the most nimble jump though
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Hunters typically usually are faster than titans as their class abilities are tied to mobility. Mobility in destiny is how quickly you walk and how quickly you can get to max sprint speed. Titans usually don’t spec into mobility as resilience is their class ability so typically hunters are faster due to these points. I’m not saying there isn’t exceptions but usually this is case.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/16/2024 3:46:32 PMOne, I’m better than you. I know how to beat almost any play style in this game, and better than you do. Two, titan skating and warlock skating. Hunter more agility in the air, not speed. Go read a book or two and you’ll understand the definition of words. Addressing barricades only since almost everything you said is dumb, you still need to pour damage into a barricade to destroy it. Popping a barricade almost always puts the enemy at a disadvantage when that comes to peek shots, empty mags from shooting the shield, or damage taken in a CQB engagement.
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Edited by TBONE: 5/16/2024 9:27:26 PMOne, You have never played against me so you can not say you’re better as that is factually incorrect. Two, You used the word “agility” which the definition in the dictionary is “The ability to move quickly and easily.“. I was correct in the context of how I used the word thank you. Thirdly, you haven’t used a perk which does destroy’s places items on the field that’s not my fault you don’t know that. You were wrong on this too. Maybe play the other parts of the game other than just PVP and you may learn something.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/16/2024 11:27:09 PMYou’re barley a positive KD, I would almost guarantee that I am better. https://imgur.com/a/FQwz1X2 Agility, moving easily. Agility does not necessarily have to do with speed, hunters have directional control. Go watch a video of titan or warlock skating. You know nothing. Hunters are not fast, stompee bouncing has been slowed down and only works in specific spots
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Edited by TBONE: 5/17/2024 10:02:22 AMI have a 1.8 KD, (You have a 2KD) I don’t play meta and I’m highly aggressive to have fun. This argument of KD is skill isn’t even relevant in D2 anyway as it’s not a measure of skill. We both are ascendent rank I just stopped playing comp as I have all the guns from Trials and Comp that’s why my rank has dropped down. I’m more interested in Pantheon at the moment. Again you may have used the word agility to describe directional control but you owe me an apology for your vile little comment as I was correct. (Which you have deleted) Mobility in destiny is literally tied to how quickly you can get to max sprint speed and as it’s also tied to the hunter’s class ability that’s again why you are mistaken. Please stop trying to argue about these irrelevant points as this was a post just about the PVP 6’s game modes.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/17/2024 11:52:30 AMI did not delete any comments, nor can you. It was either moderated or got pushed very far down in the thread. Also, in the Imgur picture are your stats. You do not have a 1.8, stop lying. Please watch these videos: https://youtu.be/pZpo7ql0gJM?si=XZLv9H6qolfcEimK https://youtu.be/vU31hvVJAeA?si=hQa3bBHHbmOMs1AM https://youtu.be/Svfob1UgPqA?si=H8M8jf5U-IDXHtnv Those are just a few examples. Warlock and titan jumps carry momentum from boost to boost. You’re faster than a 100 mobility hunter at 10 mobility on these classes. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Max sprint speed has almost nothing to do with how fast you can get across the map if you’re at all good at the game. This game has jumps, thrusts, rockets in the jeans, sprinting is not even a third of the movement. You ignoring the very extensive movement tech that exists and just citing “sprint speed” is dumb.
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Edited by TBONE: 5/17/2024 1:16:06 PMDude you did because you said go read a book or two which is gone. You edited it then the same thing regardless. I really have no interest continuing talking to you as you act like a child. The game says 1.8 for me and 2 for you I really not interested in KD as it’s not a reflection of skill if it means that much to you continue as is. I know though you can’t even play the other part of the game including raids dungeons ect. You solely play PVP and you are a META sweat who probably never pushed but hides behind others. I wont be watching any links you send. All classes have the same max sprint speed. The difference being the higher your mobility the quicker you get to that speed and allows for faster movement when not sprinting. You are wrong again. I’m not talking about skating or abilities tied to movement as these are generally used to evade. Your trying to make the exception the rule when it’s not. Your points have had no substance to your arguments other than to point out KD. It’s already been proven you are a liar and cannot substantiate any claim you have made. Good day.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/17/2024 8:06:49 PMI feel like I am trying to explain calculus to a dog right now, and this is a very simple concept. Sprinting is not the only way to move, utilizing jump boosts is way faster. Stop being stupid purposely this is why you’re bad. You are incorrect, this is why you’re the fodder that everyone farms. You don’t learn. Stay garbage.
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Edited by TBONE: 5/17/2024 11:10:58 PM[quote]I feel like I am trying to explain calculus to a dog right now, and this is a very simple concept. Sprinting is not the only way to move, utilizing jump boosts is way faster. Stop being stupid purposely this is why you’re bad. You are incorrect, this is why you’re the fodder that everyone farms. You don’t learn. Stay garbage. [quote]. I just looked at your stats bro. Are you crazy? You are @##! Come do a run on Rhulk indomitable or Oryx Exalted? Oh wait you cant. 😆 You tell me I don’t know how to play the game when you struggle with GM’s. 🤣🤣🤣 I just looked at your trials stats!!! You are crazy!😂😂😂 This season you have gotten 808 kills in trials of Osiris stated on your account. You have played this a lot more than me as you are a PVP main. I have over 2000 KILLS THIS SEASON!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You wanna say you’re better, When I have done over double in half the time. Your main play in Austringer, (17K kills in total) Matador and a GL. You play like it’s the same game two years ago. You are easy to predict with that crap. You have been carried this season. You hide back and only get clean ups. It looks like you have just came back to destiny and Play the same load out’s from back then. Boring player.
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You’re a 1.0, you can’t call anyone bad you should stop talking and go back to strikes now
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Edited by TBONE: 5/18/2024 8:02:29 AMDude your stats speak volumes. You cant say anything as you don’t even have half the experience in any part of this game to call anyone bad. I looked at your stats you kick and scream like a little girl. You get carried.
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Edited by Meaga: 5/18/2024 3:05:39 PMYou should 1v1 me so I can post the screenshot of you losing 20-0. We are talking about PvP here, stop bringing up PvE to draw us away from your 1.0. I only play the PvE I have to in order to get strong guns.
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Edited by TBONE: 5/18/2024 8:02:20 AM