Most of the ‘big impact’ things I’d like to see are unlikely to happen in D2 anytime soon, if at all. I think we all know roughly what to expect from D2 until The Final Shape. My perspective is, enjoy the game for what it is, or play something else. Sure it can be fun to armchair dev how we’d like the game to be, but not if that means despair at how the game currently exists - which is how a lot of people seem to approach this kind of discussion. It’s a 5 year old game (8 years if you consider it an extension of D1). It’s no surprise it’s lost some of its shine. For me, after The Final Shape, a *major* reset or D3 would be what I’m hoping for.

BUNGIE!! Listen to all these people in this thread! These are the changes that will save your game! Set aside your pride and listen to what your players want. Because to be honest, the team you have right now, has no clue what is best for this game, the state of the game right now proves this.

Destiny 2 is in its what year? Right now Destiny 1 is much better content wise. Factions, strike specific loot, multiple activities to do, all the fun raids, much more strikes and PvP maps, the list goes on and on. In fact, Destiny 1’s content is so much better that Bungie is trickling it in to Destiny 2.. but we have to rebuy it of course.

I would take half of what they put in every verse and lock it behind challenging triumphs as rewards to start. That badass ornament that you can get for Raiden Flux for example You have to successfully solo a legendary strike on your hunter or flawlessly run a master strike on your hunter same reward multiple ways to get it. I would do that for every class to force players to play my game in an impactful way rather than just play their main or the cheesy strategy while having three new triumphs with three different rewards tied to them. I would lower the bright dust costs of everything in the store by half and I would increase the earnable bright dust in game by three times You get a minimum of 30 bright dust every bounty that way my player base doesn't feel like they are nothing more than a cash cow. I would re-engage my PVP team to create new maps that are engaging and fun that also appeal to my community which are easy maps to make they are mid to short ranged three laned symmetrical maps. I would put out a minimum of two a season and they should be built in the new environments we're engaging with. I would listen to the feedback of the top thousand people based on hours spent in an activity by emailing them individually after looking up who they were with my countless stacks of analytics seeking constructive and honest feedback I would reward those thousand people by sending them the seasonal pin for free So that is at most 3, 000 seasonal pins. It should go without saying but I would also make sure it's not people that are just AFKing in these events by checking their stats and seeing if they align with the hours spent that way you don't create an environment where people just want to sit and do nothing but instead they want to engage actively because if they don't and they're top thousand they miss their opportunity. I would find a more rewarding way to keep clans actively playing together because getting a drop and a clan staff that literally gets shown no where in game doesn't really cut it. The quality of life changes with shadowkeep are promising when it comes to rewarding players for being good community members so they already have that on the books but I feel these other changes would really help the health of the game and still allow them to make the money they need to fund their company. It is easy to get toxic and angry about eververse being the seasonal activity I have so many friends in this game that literally get on just to see the new -blam!- they can spend money on for a season they already paid money for that it infuriates me but I do believe there is a happy medium that they could be accomplishing by putting some of those cool -blam!- exotic ornaments amazing -blam!- emotes Good looking finishers Just some of them not all of them behind triumphs for playing the game on different classes in different activities in engaging ways

Two things would make the game more fun to play. 1-allow champion mods to be equipped on weapon archetypes of choice. No longer dictated by the seasonal artifact. 2-get rid of FOMO via the seasonal model and get back to 6 month DLC content (2X per year)with the emphasis on new development for the vanguard, crucible, & gambit playlists.

Honestly despite this will attract negativity Remove Platforming from Raids and just make them a Epic Boss Fight Gauntlet like Actual MMOs do. Make Endgame Gear farmed by what the player wants to do instead of forcing them to do what they don't want to do, Example: Crucible players can avoid PvE entirely to hit Pinnacle and Vice versa. Have a "Legacy" version of D2 that's a separate download for players to experience old content, But also touch it up with current features.

Stop listening to streamers. They catch a lot of flak for how this game is and for good reason. The constant flow of content serves to give streamers something to do, because hardly any of them are entertaining enough on their own. You can look back on loads of prior conversations and videos they've done about the game being boring, despite the fact that they're the idiots who decided to use it to make money. The constant grinding, the 4-5 new seals per season, the mid season events like the dawning, all of them are designed to give streamers a constant drip of things to do so their streams are interesting. If Bungie stopped listening to streamers, they could release less things. Releasing less things means they can spend more time on the things they do release, which means they'd have the time to create things that are actually good, well thought out, and well planned and tested. Right now, we live in a hamster wheel designed to be watched, not to be played.

Not gonna lie, after this weekend of trying to farm for the stupid -blam!- cowboy hat and not dropping once, im getting close to putting down the game for good. Forget good rolls on the scout, cant even get it to drop once. No ToM, etc, ive said it before and ill say it again, whatever form of rng bungie uses combined with running the same activities ad nauseum is a detriment to the game and cause for burnout. Im sad to feel this way about the game i love, but frustration should not be the over-arching feeling i should have when "trying" to have fun playing video games.

Destiny 3. That -blam!- needs to happen, but they're married to milking D2 till it's spitting powder. The game is tired, and the old kit is clearly holding back creativity and evolution. How many orbs do we have to chuck/dunk, and how many hoops do we need to jump through just to drop the invulnerability off the next piñata of a "boss" until it gets old...wait...

I would go back to a base box sold game. This ‘live service’ is a joke. The only live service that never seems to have any bugs or failures is the Eververse Store. Having to actually create a legit game to be shipped out. Requires them to GET IT RIGHT. Something they could care less about now. If any bugs benefit us, they don’t hesitate to fix, but if it’s a hindering issue on us, they pass on it. The entire integrity of the game is gone now. It’s really sad to watch, it’s one of the best games around. Full of so much potential and they just squander it.