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10/27/2022 8:07:17 PM
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Please just buff warlock… it’s got the lowest use rates for a reason.

You’ve stripped it bare.

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  • Careful. You’re gonna make the hunter mains Cope, Seeth, and Mald with this hot take.

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    • I have a feeling there are going retune stasis next season. Warlock will be the best class then I think

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    • Considering in Aztecross's latest video on subclasses almost half the video was just dedicated to what warlocks lost coming to 3.0 i'd say warlocks need the buff. Not only that but we gave 2 aspects in devour and ionic traces and got nothing from hunter or titan to even compare(sunspots? void overshields? movement other than icarus?) having a movement option on both void and arc being locked behind supers feels bad man considering they are the only 2 with out them.

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    • I always find it funny in MMO's when people purposefully pick the robed healer/utility class - want it to be something that it's not - then cite it's "low usage" rates as a means of trying to get what they want. Like this happens over and over again in class-based games. What is wrong with people? Make better choices please.

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      • Edited by Hawpy: 10/29/2022 5:13:53 PM
        As far as PvP is concerned, Warlocks need a new Exotic armour piece that's strong for it. There's a reason why we're still using Ophidians and T-Steps, I can assure it's not because they're OP. Over the last few years, Hunters have had Stompies, Wormhusk, Renewal Grasps, Gwisin Vest, Gemini Jester, Omnioculus and now Gyrfalcon's Hauberk [i]all[/i] dominate the meta for a sizeable period of time. Consider that Bakris, Caliban's Hand and Athrys's Embrace are just solid options that have good builds associated with them, Hunters have and always have had more variety. Similarly, Titans have had OEM, Loreley, Antaeus Ward and Dunemarchers all be top-tier at separate times. The likes of Synthoceps, Peregrine Greaves, Citan's Ramparts and Feedback Fence have always had a place and can be used with good success. For Warlocks, The Stag is the only Exotic other than the two aforementioned that has had any sizeable impact on PvP on its own, and that was only after a significant buff several years after its release. I'm not going to consider Geomags as being OP because they, and Chaos Reach, were untouched since Forsaken [i]until[/i] people whinged about them in mid-Beyond Light. When was the last time Warlocks got a new Exotic that was a Crucible game-changer?

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        • Edited by Smough: 10/28/2022 1:13:49 AM
          Yes please bungie, make the easiest class even easier. I want to steamroll 90% of content even harder than I’m doing now! Clearing entires rooms with grenades isn’t enough for me! I need mooooooooore!!!!!!

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          • Come to the “A fist is better than any gun” side my friend😈😉…

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          • Better nerf hunters and titans Remove sheild bash spam as movement Oversheilds cost movement Invis gives you reduced hp on a hunter

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          • Wanna know what people are sleeping on? Stasis Warlock + Winter's Guile. Frozen punch is guaranteed kill. A 1x warlord sigil buff is a 1-shot melee now and I almost got a 7th Column on my first match trying it out. Also, Apotheosis Veil. Full abilities + health on super pop? You can pull one heck of a wombo combo with that, especially in Arc when the slide melee combos SUPER well into stormtrance.

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            • Crylocks gotta love em

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              • I don't really feel they need a buff, but really just a change of some sort.

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              • Hunter and titan bots downvoting lul

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              • 👀 I've been Main-ing warlock for years. Use it in Gambit an Crucible. It's the thing where I feel like the PvP entry bar for Warlock use is less straight forward then Hunter , which is just Dodge Pew Pew or Titan cause smash . All classes have pros/ cons just feel like Warlock is easiest to get animation killed .

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              • This honestly is nothing new. Ever since the launch of D1, Bungie has been notoriously awful at properly balancing the classes. Remember D1 Year 1? Hunters reigned supreme in PvP for that whole year because they had Golden Gun and Arc Blade, which at the time was the only roaming super. Titans and Warlocks only had FoH and Nova for offensive supers aside from Sunsinger being only good for its self-res.

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              • warlock is perfectly fine its arc titan and void hunter that need to be nerfed

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                • Those number where from weekend of trails on 1 map ppl always pick characters for maps those numbers meant nothing if it was zone trails it would be all titans and warlocks if it's a good map for flanks yeah its gunna be a hunter map if it's a good map for lanes then it's funna be a warlock/titan map if it's an ape map it's gunna be titans and hunters I don't get how so many ppl are using these Cammy cakes numbers for the entire Meta trails numbers are like 80% determined by map/freelance/zone but I haven't seen anything that supports these usage rates anywhere but that 1 weekend of trails and trails is the place where ppl use what ever they can to win most ppl have multiple characters they pick what will work on that map and mode Soo honestly I think warlocks are strong in pvp weaker in pve now for sure tho I'd have to see other numbers showing lower usage rates across pvp b4 I'm gunna say they need a buff they have alot of strong mobility/damage/healing tools plus some neutral game tricks like the void melee ophids are dumb strong thanks to ruberbanding while meleeing especially now that we have a sidearm meta so I don't see it p.s try new arc melee with felwinteds helm and a swashbuckler weapon for some crazy plays 1 hit melees that gives you a 60% damage boost and also blinds everyone wishing a 17 meter range of the melee kill

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                  • Again with this complaint. Warlock was already the best class, now the others caught up and your crying like a child who’s jealous of a sibling having the same candy. Grow up.

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                    • As a warlock I would like to have my class ability instant, give me invisibility and have an exotic give me a damage boost when I use it, so I can one shot body with arbalest. [spoiler] oh right that's hunter [/spoiler] As a warlock I would like my ranged melee to one hit kill, but only on crit so its "skilled". Then I want an exotic that makes it where it kills on body shot, and can not miss. Then troll people with golden tricorn perk with a .3ttk. [spoiler] oh right that's hunter [/spoiler] As a warlock I would like to use an exotic where if I use my melee I can get wall hacks and pop people with lorentz with ease. [spoiler] oh right that's hunter [/spoiler] As a warlock I would like to pop my instant class ability and gain radiant so I can two tap with Ace after I have proc'd memento mori [spoiler] oh right that's hunter [/spoiler] 44% of trials players have those options I'm thinking that percentage will grow.

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                      • Learn how to use them. They good.

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                        • Arc 3.0 Warlock? Sure thats not used very much I can see why you'd say this. But warlock as a whole? Buddy. Of the top 3 subclasses, Warlock has 2 of them (PvE). Warlock is actually incredible right now, especially Solar Warlock.

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                          • Just goes to show how many people only used Warlock because it was busted or required no build crafting. Which means Real Warlock Mains are very few an between apparently

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                            • Warlocks require skill and strategy to use. It’s more than just pressing two buttons to get a bunch of easy kills like the Hunter class.

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                              • Skill issue.

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                              • Trials numbers don't mean anything.

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                                • Edited by Nemohoez: 10/28/2022 12:06:50 AM
                                  Hi there! Year 1 destiny player here. I recently got a Ps5 and was wondering if Destiny 2 is worth grinding. I was a Warlock main for the beta just because of blink and was wondering if people can help me out once I get the expansions. Also check out my Ultra Instinct crucible setup. https://youtube.com/shorts/zESZqZsPZNI?feature=share

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                                  • Supers and class abilities are never gonna be balanced. It’s like saying who’s gonna win Superman and Batman would fight each other. If you add Wonder Woman into the mix, then it’s a party! Haha!🤣

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