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Calling someone's strongest loadout a crutch shows your ignorance of the competitive side of PvP. If you expect PvP players to stick with weaker weapons then you are a bit foolish. You use the word competitive...that means its about winning, not derping. People are finding new loadouts because the perks have/are getting hit so those guns will not act the same. Going ahead and finding replacements when you know whats coming is the smart thing to do instead of waiting and getting shit on once the change comes....kinda sounds a bit like ensuring you have enough skill with said weapons...you know...gitting gud with them! Finding something else that's strong in a game with hundreds of weapons is kinda what you're meant to do. The reason Bungie force meta changes is for that exact reason.
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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 1:44:47 PM
    😂😂😂😂😂 Only weak minded players think that way. If the weapon doesnt work the same way due to the nerf and you move to something better doesnt change the fact that the weapon itself made you good and not your skills. I use the word “competitive” lightly because isnt nor will be competitive. So get that thought out of your head about the winning being the reason something has to be competitive. Plus that loadout you speak of is a loadout handed down from Bungie because they refuse to balance. While you are defending your Bungie’s crutch because you lack the skills to win in any mode without them, the rest of us are “Gitting Gud” via our own loadouts and skill sets.

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  • You are such an idiot. Weak minded folks say things like you shouldnt use everything in a VIDEO game to get the result you want. Moron!!

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  • Wrong. My theory behind weak minded people is they refuse to use their own skills nor try with any and everything to get the job done. It is easy to always use the best tool in anything in life but what makes you ever more skilled is when your skills are naturally good with or without the best tool. You keep your crutch though. I will do things my way and not rely on something each season to make me feel competitive or give off the sense of skill when it is truthfully lacking in theory.

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  • This is a video game dominated by weapon perks and ability cooldowns. Your whole speech there is a shining example of how you are so far off base its pathetic. You want to lose to guns with better perks in the comp side of the game due to your own self inflicted sense of pride or superiority then go ahead. But to criticize those who just want to win so use the strong stuff genuinely shows you don't really understand the game itself and are a judgmental prick.. Have a nice day now Mr Condescending.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 2:09:18 PM
    😂😂😂 Why are you treating this game like it is competitive? This game is meant for fun and relaxing gunplay. This game will never be competitive. Get that through your thick skull. I am not condescending though. These are merely facts. It has been happening since this game launched. META shifts constantly and players associate it calling themselves “skilled” or “competitive” and it is far from it. A competitive player would find “competitiveness” in using the average to worst weapons in this game to beat the Bungie’s favorites weapons for the season. If anything, if you are going from season to season changing your loadouts based off of tbe patch notes and not improvement of your playstyle, then how are truly challenging yourself. Plus playing with the same loadouts all the time regardless of game mode is simply practice and perfect logic. It is like throwing the same punch a thousand times and getting better with it but rejecting anything else.

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  • You're the one who used the word competitive. Maybe get your shit straight before acting the big man.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 2:20:15 PM
    Riddle me this then, when did you start using 120 or 110s?

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  • Been using them along with others since day one. I change it up but use the best when in comp. Not everyone jumps on metas, but those who want to actually win will do so.

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  • So you cant win with your own skill? Got it. 😂😂😂😂. Also you definitely dodge the question too. Your answer should have been, I used 110s before the buff or I just started using 120s this season.

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  • No dodging shit mate. I said Ive used them since day 1. If you want me to say I used 110s since day 1 and 120s since the change then there you go. Oh and by the way....Im not a student nor your child....my answer should be whatever the hell I make it. Careful now...up till now I m thinking you are just a self important -blam!-...you try to tell me what my response should be and I will start to think you are one of those idiots that expects everyone else to do things their way.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 2:12:29 PM
    Wow. You read my post all the way wrong and you were immediately offended by it before speaking. Yea you are bigger idiot than I thought. I have never claimed this game to be competitive. I said there are people who label this game competitive. You need to learn how to comprehend a subject better. You are the only one who has came in here offended for reading or understanding the message wrong. I definitely said “even considered” which means someone else labeled it as such. If dumbass was a person, you are it. 😂😂😂😂

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  • Look dick head. You are the one talking down about people looking for better options due to perk nerfs. If you can't get it through your thick head that by doing so you are offending those who do so then your a muppet. You say people should just use what they were even though there are better options...then you are a moron. Some people take PvP seriously because we like the game...no ones looking for espots, but you want to critcize folks for playing a game the way the devs intend their changes to makes us play...you are a -blam!- of the highest order. You came in with the shit talk of a post. You want to act like calling the way I play unskilled or whatever isn't going to annoy me then -blam!- you.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 2:24:54 PM
    Nobody is talking down. Simply disappointed at how the community uses “META shifts” as balance or an association of skill in this game especially when the game is horrible at attempting to hang on the sense of competitiveness. You are annoyed. 😂😂😂😂😂. Why would you say it so casually? If you were skilled, you wouldnt even be bother by my opinion of the matter. You are a bigger moron than me then because you are getting upset over words. It isnt like my words are making changes happen in this game.

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  • See the thing is I have an opinion too. And the way you have stated yours is offensive since it clearly compares making changes due to integral things being changed to a lack of skill. If you cannot see that then you really are just a self important -blam!-. And not one player claims bungies meta shifts are balance. We see that they use it in an attempt to find balance that will never come to this game because of the way the perks and abilities are so dominant. Changing what you use because stuff is made less effective by nerfs or stronger by buffs is what this game is about. If you want to spend your whole time using the same guns for years on end then go ahead.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 4/13/2021 3:22:29 PM
    Okay then have an opinion without getting upset. We are done here. I saw an observation and I put my thoughts about it on a post and I was hoping for a logical discussion regarding it but I keep getting players who think narrow minded like yourself.

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