So I finished my first GoS run yesterday with LFG and here is some feedback.
1. Motes are bugged. Quite a few went under the floor or jumped over on the ledge... its a wipe.
2. DPS phase was unpredictable, 6 sec to 4 sec. No idea how and when.
3. Some hits never registered from xeno. Wipe stats showed equivalent of one yellow damage hit during debuff even when the whole magazine was emptied and I could see high damage number hits.
4. Ads sometimes did not spawn in both places during mote collection.
5. Coming back from mote collection (pull back) spawn and get killed by architect. My team saw me spawn on ledge and just die in mid air.
This was only in boss phase because that's what took me most time.
LFG is nightmare and with the dwindling population of gamers you hardly find decent people to do GoS level raids now.
I got my divinity and 1st completion and I learned most of the roles in the raid. I personally like mote collection and tether roles but finding just 3 people to do it reliable took us 7 hours due to LFG mess. Yes I am inexperienced but I held my own an some people we picked up during the raid were just stupid no matter how hard we taught them.
I was crying when 2 people couldn't understand 'stand in a straight line' instruction for divinity puzzle. I literally wanted to poke myself in painful ways for inviting them to the team.
I explained the last boss run to the team after permission from experienced player just to test my knowledge and after first wipe 1 guy said he was just shooting ads and had no idea... other new guys in team were all OK with their roles.
So Bungie, my 2 cents:
Your playerbase is gone and F2P model has attracted fortnite players in your game with zero IQ for raids. Fix your bugs before selling the product or they should have been fixed one year after the release anyway.
I learned a lot and can do the raid again with more confidence but I'll never do it because I got my loot and the game experience was bad. I made lots of good friends on the way but I doubt they will do this raid again because of the 4th class experience of the product for a group activity with too much commitment.
Also, sunsetting. Imagine us casuals putting all hard work I gear which lasts few seasons.... nah I'm not doing this. Leave it to hard core and sweats if that's what you want. This is not a sustainable model and it won't work for a good chunk of player base. Maybe you want to cull these low end players and I think you have successfully done it. All the new f2p will soon see sweat and elites in game and go back to fortnite or whatever crap they play. This will kill the player supply and soo mid level people won't have any new people to play with because vets like the ones I played with will have moved on.
So finally, the only way to play this game will be either via dodgy carry services or via some streamers channel queue.
Endgame content is a mess (bugs etc).
Game is a sh1tshow of community and getting players from LFG for endgame completion is much more difficult than winning a lottery.
[b]Clarification on Attempts[/b]
I did my first attempt using the discord group of Sherpas (link below) who taught me all about the puzzle and last 2 encounters. I had to quit as I ran out of time but learned a ton. I am in UK and most of teammates were in US so late night raid for them is early morning for me.
Anyway, next day I loaded from boss and worked backwards with lfg people as I tried to do it in European time rather than US time. Still got a ton of help by East Coast players so love them all.
I couldn't have done this without the help from Sherpa group and experienced players who finally showed up but a lot of inexperienced players who don't want to listen/learn/talk ruined the whole experience.
/rant over
Link to raid activity
https://www.bungie.net/en/PGCR/6915632279?character=2305843009268349906
Edit: rephrased the xeno hit issue to explain what i was facing.
For those who want raid help, there is a discord group of sherpas who are helping people for free
https://discord.gg/pdZrQrE
Edit: link to final boss kill while saving my sorry a$$
https://youtu.be/yvVkPY32L-g
We were out of platforms to stand and I was jumping around like an idiot to make the tether 😄
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2 RepliesHi LordNuker08!!
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1 ReplySanctified mind has like a 12 second damage window?
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While there are bugs and glitches most can be avoided at the final boss by simply picking up all the glimmer laying around. Helps a lot.
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Edited by DeathPony07: 9/17/2020 1:09:17 PMMotes have been glitching under the ground since Gambit was introduced. The same goes for their abysmal pick-up radius.
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6 RepliesAnyone else gonna tell him about xeno??
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7 RepliesLmao about xeno and crits. Whole thread is irrelevant now lol
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5 RepliesWait wait wait. How the hell did you get your first completion AND divinity in the same run? From my memory I remember you had to do the raid first, THEN you do it again except this time you have to solve puzzles.
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2 RepliesJust be thankful your not doing Crota and have him charge across the map, into the crystal room and wipe you for literally no reason. This was actually a hilarious D1 bug. Also fond memories of pushing The Templar and Atheon off the map with solar grenades in D1. Bugs can be fun too.
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1 ReplyFortnite players are extremely brain dead!
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1 ReplyBe glad you got divinity. I've mastered all the techniques you need to do in this raid but I only raid with friends and clanmates and they're too afraid to do the puzzle and Divinity run in one go. They don't think they mastered the whole thing. It ain't that hard... 🤨 Every Lfg group I found so far didn't even start that people were crying about how to do phases (When asking KWTD on ticket) and rushing through everything wiping over and over. Yeah my lfg experience sucks. I may still give it another go soon enough.
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2 RepliesYou ever get the boss to be turned at 90 degrees while trying to pull off a damage phase? Bugs ruin this game
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1 ReplyMy first raid was leviathan with similar experience (regarding LFG).. and almost 5 hours to complete.. ppl who have friends to play with don’t really get how bad it can be.
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I've gone from absolutely loving raiding through D1, to having absolutely zero interest in raiding now in D2. Have cleared every raid in D2, but they are just mind numbingly tedious, and i no longer have the patience to run them.
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3 RepliesXeno won't crit unless debuffs are active.
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1 ReplySounds like internet problems to me. Sucks when you don't know the people you're playing with.
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2 RepliesYou got a crit with xeno? I’m impressed.
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Raiding on console is awful. Garden is definitely my favorite raid to farm out of all of them.
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14 RepliesAll D2 raids are buggy and low quality. D1 raids weren’t perfect but they weren’t this bad.
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Edited by RebelJack: 9/18/2020 12:05:37 PMThe mote bug has been happening since the beginning of gambit pratically. And ofc bungie has ignored that issue.
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1 ReplyI couldn't imagine trying to lfg most raids right now. Hell I havent done GOS myself in forever, I'd probably be terribly rusty if I tried to do one now.
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3 RepliesEdited by DS Burrito: 9/17/2020 8:02:49 PMYou did a Divinity run on your first clear with a LFG. Of course you’re going to have a bad experience.
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4 RepliesThe season is basically over and the game is on life-support for the next two months. You picked a terrible time to start trying to do GoS. It's a year old anyway. A lot of people are "done" with it. All games have the problem of old content becoming unpopular.
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Sounds like a solid argument for match made raids... /s
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5 RepliesMost likely xeno stopped hitting crits because the debuff ran out. Even if you hit a crit spot with xeno it will not crit unless you have a debuff applied.
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4 RepliesXeno doesn’t crit at all.
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2 Repliessmall point of correction, xeno doesn't crit. it would be op if it did. test it anywhere.