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7/26/2020 4:55:26 PM
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Remember when supers were... super?
And i'm talking about supers like hammer of sol/fists of havoc/stormtrance/nova warp.
I get it they're ad clearers, but why? I can use thunderlord and it'll do it better. Why do i have to use almost half of my hammers to kill 1 major knight? These "Supers" are supposed to be your best weapon. I sacrefice all the time i could fire my grenade launcher to use that super, and it's damage is garbage. And don't get me started on fists of havoc, they do no damage to anything, it's a miracle they can kill major dreg or thrall. Stormtrance increases it's damage the longer it's used, but what's the point if major enemy dies after using almost half of your super? Why supers can't be a OPTION for DPS like weapons? It would create more variety of loadouts where you could use machine gun for ad clear and Supers for DPS. It would also resolve problem of Titans and Warlocks being Bubble/well -blam!-. Please consider changing super abilities into reliable weapons, not just dreg killer
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Blame the hunters warcry --- NERF!
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5 RepliesIf you think supers were stronger in D1, you’re on crack. Every super that was in both games does way more damage in D2, or has been transformed into a roaming super that can kill even more enemies. The new supers fill niches that the D1 sandbox couldn’t even comprehend. Take off the rose colored glasses, and enjoy your tactical nukes.
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Yep, also you should not be able to be 1 shot out of your super in pvp unless it's another super ofc. The change to supers makes them not even fun to use anymore. Most of them are only viable in pvp. Have you tried to use the dumb middle tree void hunter super in PvE? It's just tickling enemies plus you can't even reliably hit something multiple times you just fly past shit.
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3 RepliesSupers were weaker in D1, but weapons were also weaker. So supers actually felt super then. Make enemies stronger, have less amount of small ads, make exotics weaker and tweak subclasses.
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Yes, made me remember trying to use Burning Maul on a Lost Sector boss and I was doing less damage than if I just Witherhoarded and shot normally.
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10 RepliesNo matter what point in time you go back to, supers have never been effective against bosses. And when supers get too powerful, it’s not okay. Look at well of radiance for example. You are immortal for 25 seconds and you can get your super back instantly. It is so powerful, they had to design reckoning (since been made easier), which swarmed you with so many thrall, snipers, and phalanxes to knock you off that you could actually die in your well. So for anyone not running well, you could not complete the encounter. At all. If supers were buffed, bungie would be forced to make boss health bars increase by a massive amount, meaning that weapons would be completely useless against bosses and the entire game would be everyone running alpha lupi and trying to get their super back as fast as possible.
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1 ReplyPepperidge Farms remembers.
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Remember when posts on this forum had meaning?
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3 RepliesI was just thinking this the other day. Like when was the last time anyone melted a boss in a raid with a super...
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Not every super needs to be incredibly high DPS, but they should all do something that nothing really else can. Sure, some could benefit from just a flat damage boost, like Seeker Nova Bomb and Arc-Strider, but I would prefer adding new utility to supers rather than just a flat damage boost.
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10 Repliesremember when Destiny was actually Destiny. not a micro transaction filled game and bungie weren't so money grabbing
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1 ReplyWhile your topic doesn’t mention it Nova Bomb is decent for PvE but it’s just so Not Super in PvP.
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1 ReplyI miss shatter and lance. If bungie made an exotic that gave shatter to top tree and lance to bottom tree voidwalker I would always use that with my voidwalker.
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8 RepliesYes I remember when Hunters weren't the most busted and cheapest character PVP/easy mode, TRIGGERED Fanboy Hunters comment below🍼🤣👇
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[quote]And i'm talking about supers like hammer of sol/fists of havoc/stormtrance/nova warp. I get it they're ad clearers, but why? I can use thunderlord and it'll do it better. Why do i have to use almost half of my hammers to kill 1 major knight? These "Supers" are supposed to be your best weapon. I sacrefice all the time i could fire my grenade launcher to use that super, and it's damage is garbage. And don't get me started on fists of havoc, they do no damage to anything, it's a miracle they can kill major dreg or thrall. Stormtrance increases it's damage the longer it's used, but what's the point if major enemy dies after using almost half of your super? Why supers can't be a OPTION for DPS like weapons? It would create more variety of loadouts where you could use machine gun for ad clear and Supers for DPS. It would also resolve problem of Titans and Warlocks being Bubble/well -blam!-. Please consider changing super abilities into reliable weapons, not just dreg killer[/quote] I don’t, didn’t play those 3 days, when I jumped back on everything was nerfed
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2 Repliesfist of havoc needs to go back to d1 style and be a massively powerful slam that wipes out the surrounding area like nova bomb. i hate the new roaming super style it is now in d2 where you are basically just running around with unlimited shoulder charge.
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Remember when no matter what bungie does to super people will complain
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1 ReplyIn D1 supers were pretty weak, in D2 they actually are pretty strong, especially in gambit, but unlike in D1 they are EXTREMELY slow to regenerate.
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I remember lance nova bomb and blink having a nice immunity frame while blinking, other than that, D2 supers are far more deadly and far more powerful.
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4 RepliesI honestly think we should get all D1 supers back and give subclasses D1 style customization. Self res, blade dancer, the nova bomb that split into 3, the really really fast nova bomb, the 2 striker Titan supers we are missing from D1, radiance, you name it. It should come back but balanced with D2 standards.
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Oppressive darkness/controverse hold/nova bomb. What else?
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2 RepliesRemember when....players understood that a weaker super usually meant your other abilities had tweaks that made them stronger than normal and that each subclass tree was built around having different strengths and weaknesses such as being stronger against minors/bosses and/or having different, non-super abilities meant for dealing with meatier enemies because an add-clear super is different from a single-target super and players knew to swap the class tree they were using to adapt to the scenario they were going into instead of crying that they can't force their square class into the round enemy?
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4 RepliesRunning thunderlord is why you suck in the raid team. Supers are fine. Always have been. Just because at one point we had infinite nova bombs which completely broke the game, doesnt mean all of them should now be infinite :) They are still powerful, still good, just another worthless "complaint" really.
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1 ReplyI agree, something that I would like to see happen is basically like a super ranking system. So if you have a favorite super/subclass you should be able to level it up the more you play with it until you reach a mastered rank then that would allow to unlock certain perks and increase super damage and duration...etc So if you sink hours into playing one subclass you should have better mastery of it then someone who just switches subclasses one time. I think that would help make supers feel super again. Like we know Cayde was a master gunslinger, Ikora wielded Void, Zavala striker... I would love to see something like that happen with our supers.
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My only gripe is with nova warp and burning mains both are absolute garbage inside of PvP and PvE
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Because Well Exists. Our guns do too much damage when buffed, so supers have to be weak against bosses else, we would litteraly burn right through them even faster than we do now. Alot of PvE nerfs are because of Well.
