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5/15/2020 6:47:44 AM
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I'm very disturbed with Ana's new dialogue vocabulary of "Giant kamikaze spaceship"

I really think that this use of vocabulary is historically and culturally very inappropriate. Just like the game current does not contain any "[url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]" word (or maybe I don't know of its existence yet, but if it does, I don't approve of using that word either), I believe "kamikaze" to be same. It is not a synonym for self-destruct, it is an act of human degradation, one of many war crimes and crime against humanity done by a nation. And you cannot say that it was used as the meaning "the divine wind that neutralized invasion to Japan", because there is no such context in "giant kamikaze spaceship". And yes, there are other games that use the words that I'm saying are inappropriate. While I do not personally approve them, they are usually games that have such context, that either the game contains such factions, the world is cruel and crude, and/or the characters are foul-mouthed or sinister or crazy. From what I have played, I had the impression that the world Bungie is building in Destiny, and the character of Ana Bray does not fall under any of those above. Yes, Destiny world is post-apocalypse facing another apocalypse soon to come. But despite all feuds and bloodshed during the dark age, humanity of Destiny regrouped under noble causes and guardians stood to protect humanity. It was Bungie that separated light bearers to guardians, and Ana is a guardian. I really cannot understand Ana Bray using "kamikaze". Why would she use that word? There is a difference between carefree, casual personality to inconsiderate personality. I believed Ana Bray to be former, and I hope that Bungie will rethink about what vocabulary they are using to build and describe their characters and world.

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  • Found a karen

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  • You guys must all be the same people complaining that rick and morty made a 911/ pearl harbor joke

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  • This is a joke right? Someone tell me this is a joke.

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  • Imagine getting offended cause someone got offended over a word

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  • It's just a word.

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    • Im sorry that offends you... I think your making a much bigger deal about this than you need to however

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    • Just realized... this is the same as saying that pearl and marina from off the hook should be removed from splatoon 2. It’s a video game, and a word. Not a threat or a personal attack.

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    • Edited by Empyreanzz: 5/15/2020 6:31:26 PM
      *facepalm*

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    • Time to cancel a fictional character from a video game that takes place 1000 years in the future #CancelAnaBray

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    • Please,think carefully from now Bungie. They actually gathering more and more to harass the post owner in every direction...in other platforms,too. Bungie selling diversity but stil thoes ppl are playing and yelling us to shut up,then how's about OTHER games? I'm in worry especially this : because Destiny already have Psion.if you using that word , what could possibly go MORE in future stories this comp selling? KAMIKAZE is not just some dumb wasting of life and resources,they used colony's ppl by force,too.you didn't-had-period-of-being-conquered or short - thinkers! yes,i'm in angry cause my granny (who was young in colony time) is still living with my family's care ! ...and oh...Don't forget your comp used 'dead indian' things,too. Please. You guys likes persue to be better. ...mostly. That's why ppl desappointed this time. you made and display many characters. Then using Ana to this. shame on you;all of you. And Bungie,You guys actually passed thoes words and need to have response to that. And this situation. I hope we can get some feedback on thoes issues. I'm not leaving this game even i can't play (b.c i don't have much time to keep up with compact season schedule unlike before,as you guys recently changed.) your game actually one of the most comport game that i can get.

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    • It's a ship. Going to suicide crash into hostile forces. For all intents and purposes, it is a kamikaze ship

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    • This is exactly like when bungie had [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] symbols as art works around the world. Everyone but the germans thought it was funny and it took them months to do and adress this.

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    • Dont go to Ana Bray then,simples.

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    • Hoooooly crap, shut the -blam!- up 😂 take the fake outrage culture somewhere else please

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    • Ana: Giant -blam!-ing spaceship You: OOOOOHHH MY GOSH IMMA DIE. OOOO THEY USED A BAD WORD. MOMMY? CAN I USE YOUR EX'S PHONE TO WRITE A POINTLESS FORUM? WHAT BREEZES OFF EVERYBODY"S SHOULDER OFFENDS ME SOMEHOW! Your Mom: Go to your room, Jhonny.

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    • That's enough forum for me today

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      • [quote]I really think that this use of vocabulary is historically and culturally very inappropriate. Just like the game current does not contain any "[url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]" word (or maybe I don't know of its existence yet, but if it does, I don't approve of using that word either), I believe "kamikaze" to be same. It is not a synonym for self-destruct, it is an act of human degradation, one of many war crimes and crime against humanity done by a nation. And you cannot say that it was used as the meaning "the divine wind that neutralized invasion to Japan", because there is no such context in "giant kamikaze spaceship". And yes, there are other games that use the words that I'm saying are inappropriate. While I do not personally approve them, they are usually games that have such context, that either the game contains such factions, the world is cruel and crude, and/or the characters are foul-mouthed or sinister or crazy. From what I have played, I had the impression that the world Bungie is building in Destiny, and the character of Ana Bray does not fall under any of those above. Yes, Destiny world is post-apocalypse facing another apocalypse soon to come. But despite all feuds and bloodshed during the dark age, humanity of Destiny regrouped under noble causes and guardians stood to protect humanity. It was Bungie that separated light bearers to guardians, and Ana is a guardian. I really cannot understand Ana Bray using "kamikaze". Why would she use that word? There is a difference between carefree, casual personality to inconsiderate personality. I believed Ana Bray to be former, and I hope that Bungie will rethink about what vocabulary they are using to build and describe their characters and world.[/quote] I think that all you people saying too sensitive should live a little because you don’t get it, go through what others have or act like it’s something sensitive to you, for instance let’s say your mother died and I was like so, I didn’t know her so stop crying -blam!-, you kinda get the point?

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      • Edited by 므느프: 5/15/2020 1:20:18 PM
        D2 fandom goes apeshit whenever someone mocks other class or puny lore headcanon that isn't even remotely close to real person or event but also they call out someone 'snowflake' xd

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      • I completely agree!! I’m going to stop ordering Kamikazes at the bar.

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        • We are screwed... 🙃

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        • A very well written and thoughtful critique. Thank you for sharing this. I hope that it is taken seriously so that our international community can enjoy this quest without the weight of that term dragging it down.

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          • ok

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          • I hadn't started the quest yet, that is really unfortunate to hear. I really hope Bungie sees this and puts in a minor edit to remove it.

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          • Master Rahool: never hurt another being and only stayed in the Tower to decrypt Engrams D1 Bungie: “So let’s make a meme about genocide around this guy.” [spoiler]I’m not all for gratuitous amounts of excessive violence and all that, but even this by any rational standards is ridiculous to be complaining about. We literally go around half the time blowing the actual heads off aliens, dealing with black market trades and hit services, hell, Xur is a homeless cripple. [/spoiler]

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            • The people in these replies are deplorable, honestly. The word still carries significant weight in Korea and the Korean fanbase are fully allowed to be uncomfortable with it. They are allowed to be as vocal as you guys are when you don't get your pvp changes. Though it may come off as minor to you, it could mean much more to other people. Especially non-English players.

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              • Another thread where ninja laziness (or worse, total disregard for the coc) rears its obvious head once again.

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