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Edited by Shrike22498:
3/2/2020 4:28:49 PM
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110s need a range buff
This archetype is pretty horrible and unless running a damage buff are next to useless vs 140s and 150s.
To make them more usable they should get a range buff imo, to fill the space between hand cannons and
scouts and an alternative to pulses. Otherwise why are they in the game?
Bungie please buff.
P. S. Make 140s two head one body to differentiate from 150s.
If 110s had more range, 140s were two head one body, and 150s stay the same or even get a range nerf. That would hugely differentiate the three archetypes. Do you want max range, Max consistency, or max ttk?
Now however there is no reason ever to use a 110 (unless very situational for a 2 tap) and probably not a 140 unless you really like the perks. 150s are too good.
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2 RepliesArchetypes are archaic and need to be removed. Guns should function as their designed to. Limiting everything to rof is stupid, arbitrary, and is the main reason a lot of guns are re-skins of old ones.
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1 ReplyEdited by Josev_Spaceface: 3/2/2020 10:18:51 PMTotally agreed, 110's deserve way better. They are practically suicide on console unless you have KC active. If you're going to make them fire like slow snipers and slow scouts, the range class improvement should be a given, and honestly I wouldn't stop there, either. Maybe higher precision damage at closer ranges would be a nice solution to help offset. 2 crit kills is possibly overboard, but maybe at <15M it'd make more sense. They are practically bows with less zoom, let's see some benefits! Edit: Wow, this is already practically suggested word for word in the thread! Bungie, let's see it!
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1 ReplyAnd 180s need a magazine buff too
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They're kind of in the same spot as 450 Pulses. Their range dropoff is the same as 540s. 540s shoot faster so they can kill you in a much faster time.
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4 RepliesNope, they’ll all be retired along with the 150 and 180’s . New ones will be introduced and will be rubbish.
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More weapon archetypes need differentiation in general, especially HCs and scouts.
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4 RepliesNo hand canon are already in a good place also they already said they arent changing hand canons on twitter
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4 RepliesHonestly 110’s should two tap. It’s such a bad archetype that gets beat out by all the others.
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Or just reduce the range and let them two crit at up to 15-20 meters. Your right tho, they are useless now and need something.
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Or get rid off that stupid range nerf on all Handcannons. The most uncalled Nerf of all time
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8 RepliesYes yes lets make handcannons even more powerful to give even more reasons why not to use any other primary type in the game. Even with the auto rifle buffs coming they are still gonna behind handcannons.
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A buff to damage to increase the damage from range when falloff starts. Effectively increasing range
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yes they are way too unforgiving right now and have no pros to them
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Yes range buff for 110s please BUNGO
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Range on all HC’s in D2 is meaningless. The lowest green HC has a max range of 25 meters. The longest range HC in the game is 28 meters. Bungie’s stat bars are less than worthless. 110’s need a damage buff.
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2 RepliesHow to properly make each archetype of handcannons diffrent and fair 110s have a higher range drop off 2 head one body from a distance close range two head. 140s have a higher base range before drop off compared to 150s but still much less than 110s. Make them two head one body at optimal distance. 150s currently the best handcannons make them have a lower base range compared to 140s but higher than 180 spam cannons. 3 head shots or 2 head shots two body to get a kill. 180s have the least amount of range and the longest ttk with a 4 headshot or 3 headshot 2 body. With things like trust and explosive payload that's a fair adjustment.
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2 RepliesThey should make 110s special weapons and buff their damage like ariana vow
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2 RepliesGotta wait another 3 months. At least.
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6 RepliesThey need a huge PvE damage buff. 150's kill adds in the same amount of shots.
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Edited by JazzyPaladin477: 3/1/2020 9:16:16 PMNah 110 range is fine. 140/150/180 crutch cannons need a further range nerf and reduction in aim assist to make them fit. All hand cannons still hitting at ridiculous ranges for pistols with low/no zoom sights.
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7 RepliesAnyone?
