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12/27/2019 3:34:14 AM
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Religion doesn't belong in Poltics, this isn't a Theocracy

My dad is watching the news and two Christian groups are going at each other over support of Trump with one saying he is immoral and should be removed from office and the other arguing about that. Lmao politics and religion? This isn't some -blam!-ing Theocracy, religion brings no freedom but only a strict policy and rule book. Opinions on this?
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  • Agreed. Its unconstitutional for any laws to be made that “cater” to a specific religion... but politicians don’t exactly follow the constitution now a days. Its more of a template they use when it fits their narrative but ignore it when it doesn’t.🙄😡🤦🏼‍♂️

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  • I hate politics

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    My thoughts are that people are going to do what people are going to do. Religious people vote. Non-religious people vote. They both have ideas, beliefs & things they want to see happen. As long as they are not stepping on my toes, live & let live. The moment they step on my toes, they begin to irk me.

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  • Conservative Evangelicals got Trump elected. They have more power and influence than ever. They don't want to lose it. Have a nice day!😎

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  • Edited by Hellfire: 12/29/2019 1:55:08 AM
    He should be removed because trump betrayed stone, allowing tech company abuse of freedom of speech, and not executing treasonous globalist representatives and technocrats. Trump also does some shady occult things. Christianity is just common sense. But at least the mob boss keeps the psychos in check. Dont sink the boat.

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  • 100% agree. Seperation of Church and State is how it is supposed to be

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  • While religion should not be a part of the state. This does not make it so a religious person cannot participate. I think this is generally understood but I felt it should be said.

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  • [i][b]FOR THE EMPEROR[/b][/i]

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    • [quote]I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. [/quote] - Thomas Jefferson

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    • Wanting a moral leader isn’t religion...

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      • "The truth is, that it is quite an error to suppose that absence of definite convictions gives the mind freedom and agility. A man who believes something is ready and witty, because he has all the weapons about him. He can apply his test in an instant." - G.K. Chesterton

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      • This is why the First Amendment—-The Establishment Clause/ Seperation of Church and State—-was the [i]first.[/i] When religion and politics hop into bed together, both are soiled by it.

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        • Edited by SuperJohnJohn: 12/28/2019 1:40:02 AM
          Hey. We should throw philosophy out of politics as well!! We don’t need no morality getting in the way of progress

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          • You do understand one can have religious motivations without mingling the church and state? It’s a problem when one makes in argument in favor of a particular religion.

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          • Let them have their views. As long as someone doesn't mandate for you to be a Christian. They are voting based on their views, same thing we all do.

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            • Religion doesn’t belong in politics and politics don’t belong in my universe

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            • I do not agree with a religion controlling the government. For example, a situation where you had to be apart of a certain religion to be in the government. However, I am for religion guiding people's decisions. No matter your ideas on religion, religion provides a moral codebook and I think that those who subscribe to a moral codebook should be allowed to use it to help them make decisions and rationalize situations. But beyond providing a moral basis, I am not for religion in the government

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            • Religion and government shouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of each other, which is the [u]only[/u] reason I would rather have Trump in office than Pence. (Note: Trump is still a blithering idiot, and he doesn't belong in a seat of power.)

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              • Well, yes, church and state should remain seperate, but what you're describing isn't relsted to that. There's nothing wrong with religious groups voicing political opinions as long as it doesn't actually impact religion. If they're just having a debate, that doesn't constitute theocracy.

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              • I don’t think anyone is going to argue with you on making Church and State one being a stupid idea

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              • Your logic is a little bit confusing, I think. They are two groups of people that disagree on someone else’s values and leadership. The same would go for secular liberals and secular conservatives. Even so, I’m going to vote based off of my beliefs and values. Separation of faith and politics or religion and politics does not mean that I have to remove my faith from my decision making on who I want to lead my country.

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              • Nonsense, Sharia Law should be America's Law

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              • The separation of church and state only means the government can’t run a church

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                • I’m gonna go completely off the point of the original post. But I believe Christianity isn’t a set fo rules. There’s no rituals you have to complete. Except for accepting Christ as your savoir, there are no other requirements. You should go to church, you don’t have to. You should get baptized, you don’t have to. It’s people that’s made Christianity as set of things you [i]have[/i] to follow. And that’s not right.

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                  • The two shouldn’t be combined. Go ahead, protect people’s rights to believe in whatever religion they want, but if you have chosen to follow a religion, don’t expect others to abide by your rules if they never chose to.

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                    • Ideally they remain completely separate but that doesn't ever seem to be the case. I mean, religious belief are likely going to affect someone's political decisions on an individual level but it'd be great if that didn't extend out to people determining that other groups aren't real "Christians" or whatever religious group you want to pick if they support or oppose Trump. I don't think religion in politics is a huge issue, it's when people use that religion as a club that it becomes an issue. Mayor Pete is a great example of this as well, he's on the left but loves to bring up his religious belief and attempts to shame other Christians that don't agree with him. I get it though, for people that are religious and support Trump it's gotta be rough reconciling the kind of person he is and how that goes against most of what you probably believe with the fact that he's pushing policies that line up with your beliefs and lifestyle better than the opposing party.

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