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12/3/2019 3:00:36 AM
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Never said it was good but if you use any super they that was described you will get melted except bottom tree sticker maybe. Nove warp was never a great choice for PvE, stormcaller has always been 100 percent better for add clears and both supers suck for dps. In crucible if you use blink for the jump it can be pretty devastating. I just saw a team wipe in iron banner.
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  • And i don't see anyone blinking in high comp

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  • Probably because you only see one eyed mask titans in comp.... But seriously you can't judge a super in just one aspect of the game. We could list a whole lot of sipers that are underused or weak. I've always had the opinion that all roaming supers should have the same base duration, lose the same energy per activation and do the same damage per activation.

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  • Then there is a reason Usually people in comp want to win, if you don't see anyone blinking in high comp Devastating

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  • Ok, I don't see top or bottom golden gun, I don't see mid or top solar titan, I don't see top void hunter, top or bottom arc hunter.....I could list all but 6 supers when talking comp. Do the other 21 need buffed because of comp?

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  • You said it's devastating, no one uses it in comp (where movement actually matters a lot) against good players (actually nobody really uses warlock in console high comp) So, it's not devastating If you don't see bottom tree arc hunters i want your matchmaking

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  • It is devistating in 6v6 modes. My example was a 6v6 mode. You started talking comp and ignored the fact that there are very few supers used in comp. You picked one aspect of the game, part of which only a small percentage of us play. Yes moment is much more important in comp which is why the good warlocks are blinking.

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  • Name those good warlocks AHAHAHAHAHAHAH Blink is easily the worst movement in the game, your hitboxes are much bugger, you can't blink more than twice in a row, you can't play your vertical space You talk about abilities you don't even play You saw a warlock in ib doing some work with it, wow op, that's a super reliable reason Use it by yourself and then you can talk

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  • Sounds like you could take your own advice. Did you seriously say aerial game and Warlock in the same statement. Warlocks are floating targets in the air unless they are in Dawnblade or a super that has blink. There's a reason that arc hunters want their blink back. If I could find detailed stats on ability use I would show you the top warlocks. I've probably been killed by hand held super nova more than any other grenade in comp so the tree is being used. You conveniently keep ignoring all those other subclasses that aren't used in comp, why is that?

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/3/2019 2:24:07 PM
    Vertical movement isn't aereal gameplay You said good players use it, but you couldn't provide a name In my games for the unbroken title i played few warlocks and nobody was using blink (for example TV isn't using it in his last voidlock video, frostbolt too, osk too, sird too, apathethic never uses it, why? Lol) I used it and it's trash Oh, if you struggle against hhsn, you are just bad at positioning Your stats show it clearly 😉

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  • Oh there it is folks, the guy that runs his comp loadout everygame he plays because his Destint Ka/D gets him so far in life....lol. You're a joke. You watch those youtubers for tips in Cruible? I have Not Forgotten to bud, guess what there is no other reason to play for legend. Unbroken? Comps a joke now, Unbroken isn't anything to brag about anymore.

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  • Meanwhile you left the topic about blink, still waiting for names of good players using it in all of their games If i had to play for my stats i would have played hunter since year 2, i use what i enjoy using Unbroken will be a joke in the 3rd season of year 3, i got it this season because i spent time helping some friends to 5500 in the last 2 season (in fact bad players like you got it this season, or cheating, or paying for recovs) You are the clown, pretending something to be good while you don't even use it

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  • Again I never said nova warp was good in comp, one aspect of the game. There's a whole bunch of supers not used in comp. The clown in thin conversation pulled out stats while having his comp loadout shown as his primary loadout. Why? Because he apparently watches streamers for tips and has to play how they do. You boosted your stats in Crucible when you could farm PvE players when they didn't have sbmm to protect them. The other joke is you being proud of being good in a game that isn't a balanced thumb skill game. This game isn't an e-sport. I'll be sure to mention how good you are at playing Destiny to my family after work and I can't wait to jump on with my friends later and tell them how you graced me with some conversation. I'll be sure to check out all those pvp streamers you mentioned to. Man I can't wait for them to tell me how to play and listen to them crazy about sbmm even though there is a cbmm playlist. Thanks for the time and the names,m but zero usage stats and zero proof that nova warp is never used even though it has the only ohk grenade in the game. Have fun basking in your greatness.....

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/3/2019 4:51:16 PM
    And good players don't use blink in qp too, so, not that devastating as you said (and again, i tried, you didn't even try to play with it and you clearly have no idea about how bad it: it limits you way to much) You said it's super good for movenent, which is something really liked by good players, so it should be worth to run in comp, facts prove you wrong Sbmm is bad for team balancing but you face average players, cbmm is full of sweaty players That's why crucible isn't that fun to play right now and people (not only streamers) keep complaining about it Sbmm isn't liked in every single game from both good and bad players You are not the only one working btw

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  • "Facts" neither one of us showed any facts we used personal experience. I do use blink when I run void in Crucible, I just don't run void that much because chain lightning is more fun. You just said that players prefer cbmm but the cbmm list is only sweaty players? If cbmm was preference wouldn't it be the same mix as last year where you sweats could build you self-esteem against the PvE only players? Sbmm has made Crucible far more enjoyable for my average friends so right now is the best Crucible experience for them. The majority of the outcry about sbmm is from the top 1 percent that want to relax in a cbmm gamemode. You still have that but most player prefer to play others the have a chance of beating. I'd but into the "I just want to relax and not gave to use the same guns" bs if I didn't see so many dust rock, not forgotten, wardcliff setups in quickpkay all of last year. Now if you have a connection preference you have a choice use it.

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  • And in cbmm i match better players than sbmm, because they all go there to play chill I showed facts, i showed you really good warlocks and no one of them uses blink You said: who is a good warlock uses blink and i showed you that's false I am waiting your good warlock players' names Since your statement was so clear i guess you have facts to prove You can track all of my comp games if you want, you won't find a good warlock using a void sublcass, so automatically no blink, the best movement tool a warlock can have I also told you why blink isn't good: bigger hitboxes, cooldown on the 3rd blink and 0 vertical movement for baiting or pushing from above without crossing your fingers

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  • You didn't show many anythong,you names a few streamers that you apparently support. I could probably track my comp games and see plenty of warlocks running nova warp, I see hand held a lot. These aren't facts they are experiences. Stats are the only fact, and I can't seem to find usage stats again. Plus you are using one part of the game. There are plenty of subclasses that are better in 6v6. Comp isn't the be all end all in design.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/3/2019 6:58:14 PM
    You didn't share a name yet 🤡 You didn't say anything abiut blink's drawbacks 🤡

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  • Oh and you shared some names.....wow. I have no clue who anybody you listed is. I bet 99 percent of the playerbase has no clue who you are talking about. I didn't see any of those name in the top 10 global leaderboards, I'll go double check maybe I overlooked them.

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  • If you don't know true vanguard or frostbolt you really have 0 clue Leaderboards are useless in this game since they reward the player who plays the most, not the better player You can watch tournaments and you won't see any warlock blinking

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  • Heard of True Vanguard but didn't realize you nicknamed him TV. The only time I ever watch that guy he was crying lag and there wasn't any, then crying he couldn't challenge supers and another time he was crying because he was breaking even in Rumble when it was introduced. Seeing a "top" streamer cry was entertaining for a moment but I'll never watch him again. Never heard of your other guy.....oh no I'm clueless because I don't watch other people play video games.... what? Kd leaderboards reward the people who play the most? Wtf? I'd say it's sad you can name that many "content creaters".

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  • I don't watch streamers and there are no concrete stats we can look up. Blinks draw backs? Floating slowly through the air doesn't have drawbacks? You think you're making a point but you're not. You limited your opinion to one game type and you brought stats into a discussion.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/3/2019 7:28:56 PM
    You can't warlock skate with blink You can share names of good players you matched Blink sucks everywhere

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  • https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/leaderboards/stats/all/default Those players weren't even top 30.... I could go back to the last couple of games and list names, what does that prove. You don't need to skate with blink, blink let's you close the gap with Nova warp very easily and you can blink again with the supers blink. Storm callers super also has a blink that let's you close the gap.

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  • And in cbmm i match better players than sbmm, because they all go there to play chill I showed facts, i showed you really good warlocks and nobody plays it You said: who is a good warlock uses blink and i showed you that's false I am waiting your good warlock players' names Since your statement was so clear i guess you have facts to prove You can track all of my comp games if you want, you won't find a good warlock using a void sublcass, so automatically no blink, the best movement tool a warlock can have I also told you why blink isn't good: bigger hitboxes, cooldown on the 3rd blink and 0 vertical movement for baiting or pushing from above without crossing your fingers

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  • And in cbmm i match better players than sbmm, because they all go there to play chill I showed facts, i showed you really good warlocks and nobody plays it You said: who is a good warlock uses blink and i showed you that's false I am waiting your good warlock players' names Since your statement was so clear i guess you have facts to prove You can track all of my comp games if you want, you won't find a good warlock using a void sublcass, so automatically no blink, the best movement tool a warlock can have I also told you why blink isn't good: bigger hitboxes, cooldown on the 3rd blink and 0 vertical movement for baiting or pushing from above without crossing your fingers

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