I'm writing to voice my concern regarding issues which are entwined with the decision Bungie has made to run Steam as it's handler for multiplayer. In doing so, Bungie has seemingly shirked the responsibility of providing any kind of in-game moderation for the community. Whether intended or not, it is negatively impacting player experience. If you agree, please upvote for visibility.
Cases in point follow.
These are names which I have seen in the Tower and other locations over the last week:
(Warning, these names are offensive and have been left uncensored to highlight their vulgarity)
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An entire fireteam in Crucible:
Black Face
Brown Face
Yellow Face
In the Tower:
CumLee
a_s_s_g_a_p_e =)
<gunemoji>urhead<target>
Faygo Tree
lol why u laggin so much?
1448570958
PleaseNutNovember (this person literally has in his player info an ASCII penis ejaculating and next to it there is text that says "it's a penis". This should tell you how much Steam cares)
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Sure, bad names are nothing new. Some of the names on this list aren't offensive at all, they're just bad. The problem is that before, on the Blizzard Client, Blizzard would restrict you to 1 free name change and you had to pay to change it after that. Blizzard also has a stricter naming policy. On Steam, it is literally a freeforall of offensive, edge-lord names. Were it a rare occurrence, I would report and move on. I don't report funny, dumb, or nonsensical names. I'm not the fun policy. What I take issue with is names that are sexually or racially offensive. Now, however, these reports go to Steam and they are clearly not taking notice at all.
The amount of offensive names I have seen in the last few weeks is incredible. You can almost log into any Tower instance and spot one during normal Western Hemisphere hours. I checked for myself how hard it is to change your name. It works like this: You change it. At any time. Get creative and you can put about anything in there. Then change it back. In theory you could change it to something super offensive for like a play session and then change it back with zero repercussions. As a veteran player, I shouldn't have to log in and have to look at this every single day in the tower, in the kill feed, in the roster, etc. It's distressing and it makes me want to play less.
"Lol why you laggin so much?" asks a very good question. Clan members of mine have commened how they have ended up going into Crucible to finish some quests or bounties and came away feeling awful because while they do reasonably well on their own, they were repeatedly placed in matches where people were clearly Lag Switching or Hacking to some capacity. One clan member commented yesterday that he saw a player warping directly to enemy spawns and shooting them with the Moutaintop. I personally thought they were just complaining, however 100+ matches later I can tell you that yes, hacking is absolutely an issue. It was then staggering to hear that Steam has chosen not to use any of the anti cheat features Steam offers on their platform and when asked by the community if they would consider Hardware Bans they said they would be "hard to implement" on their end. Crucible is better (if everyone is playing fair) than it has been in the past. I have been enjoying it more than last season, however the tidal wave of abuse I have seen in-game threatens to overturn what Bungie is providing in terms of player experience ten fold.
In closing, Bungie has at best committed a massive oversight in allowing Steam to hold the cards when it comes to moderation. They have already proven time and again that they simply don't have either the resources or the desire to so, well before Bungie chose their platform. Additionally, by making the game free to play, they have opened the floodgates for people to come in and do as they like with little to no repercussions from Steam. Bungie absolutely must take a stand and address this if they expect to maintain at a minimum the same experience they have been providing under Blizzard/Activision. The responsibility should fall to them and them alone.
In closing, I leave you with with a Steam post from a "New Player" asking me to kill myself because my fireteam allegedly all ran Recluse (2 of us had it equipped) and remind you that Devs are sitting behind cameras myopically touting that "Destiny is best when you play it with your friends!"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427164129028210688/643202160317956148/75252957_517912842324542_5909573054505156608_n.jpg
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pc master race?
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Offensive names and cheaters Welcome to the internet
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2 RepliesHopefully you can report that person who told you to kill yourself. On Xbox, they'd probably get a communications ban. Playing online, you are going to run into many jerks. Can you block incoming chat from anyone that isnt a friend?
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Wahh wahh wahh someone said mean words to me, must run to the forums.
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The names were amazing. Just report the guy who said kys or better yet say ok boomer and move on. It’s not that hard.
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How old are you? 4? Getting triggered by random "kys" message. Grow a spine and learn when not to be offended from every stupid thing.
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ASCII Penis 😆😆😆 Damn, that's offensive... to anyone who drinks fecking Soy milk!
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Sorry to hear you’re that easily offended, guess you fit in with the rest of society nowadays🙄
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Why does it matter what people name themselves?
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Kids these days, offended by everything.
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"waaaahhhh people have humourous names!!!! Restrict them!!!!!!" You're like people who get upset because a known offensive comedian says an offensive joke.
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1 ReplyLmao Those names are hilarious. Whats the problem?
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Imagine caring about people’s choices of virtual name in a video game this much. You would never have survived a MW2 lobby back in the day lmao
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5 Replies[quote]I'm writing to voice my concern regarding issues which are entwined with the decision Bungie has made to run Steam as it's handler for multiplayer. In doing so, Bungie has seemingly shirked the responsibility of providing any kind of in-game moderation for the community. Whether intended or not, it is negatively impacting player experience. If you agree, please upvote for visibility. Cases in point follow. These are names which I have seen in the Tower and other locations over the last week: (Warning, these names are offensive and have been left uncensored to highlight their vulgarity) [spoiler] An entire fireteam in Crucible: Black Face Brown Face Yellow Face In the Tower: CumLee a_s_s_g_a_p_e =) <gunemoji>urhead<target> Faygo Tree lol why u laggin so much? 1448570958 PleaseNutNovember (this person literally has in his player info an ASCII penis ejaculating and next to it there is text that says "it's a penis". This should tell you how much Steam cares) [/spoiler] Sure, bad names are nothing new. Some of the names on this list aren't offensive at all, they're just bad. The problem is that before, on the Blizzard Client, Blizzard would restrict you to 1 free name change and you had to pay to change it after that. Blizzard also has a stricter naming policy. On Steam, it is literally a freeforall of offensive, edge-lord names. Were it a rare occurrence, I would report and move on. I don't report funny, dumb, or nonsensical names. I'm not the fun policy. What I take issue with is names that are sexually or racially offensive. Now, however, these reports go to Steam and they are clearly not taking notice at all. The amount of offensive names I have seen in the last few weeks is incredible. You can almost log into any Tower instance and spot one during normal Western Hemisphere hours. I checked for myself how hard it is to change your name. It works like this: You change it. At any time. Get creative and you can put about anything in there. Then change it back. In theory you could change it to something super offensive for like a play session and then change it back with zero repercussions. As a veteran player, I shouldn't have to log in and have to look at this every single day in the tower, in the kill feed, in the roster, etc. It's distressing and it makes me want to play less. "Lol why you laggin so much?" asks a very good question. Clan members of mine have commened how they have ended up going into Crucible to finish some quests or bounties and came away feeling awful because while they do reasonably well on their own, they were repeatedly placed in matches where people were clearly Lag Switching or Hacking to some capacity. One clan member commented yesterday that he saw a player warping directly to enemy spawns and shooting them with the Moutaintop. I personally thought they were just complaining, however 100+ matches later I can tell you that yes, hacking is absolutely an issue. It was then staggering to hear that Steam has chosen not to use any of the anti cheat features Steam offers on their platform and when asked by the community if they would consider Hardware Bans they said they would be "hard to implement" on their end. Crucible is better (if everyone is playing fair) than it has been in the past. I have been enjoying it more than last season, however the tidal wave of abuse I have seen in-game threatens to overturn what Bungie is providing in terms of player experience ten fold. In closing, Bungie has at best committed a massive oversight in allowing Steam to hold the cards when it comes to moderation. They have already proven time and again that they simply don't have either the resources or the desire to so, well before Bungie chose their platform. Additionally, by making the game free to play, they have opened the floodgates for people to come in and do as they like with little to no repercussions from Steam. Bungie absolutely must take a stand and address this if they expect to maintain at a minimum the same experience they have been providing under Blizzard/Activision. The responsibility should fall to them and them alone. In closing, I leave you with with a Steam post from a "New Player" asking me to kill myself because my fireteam allegedly all ran Recluse (2 of us had it equipped) and remind you that Devs are sitting behind cameras myopically touting that "Destiny is best when you play it with your friends!" https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/427164129028210688/643202160317956148/75252957_517912842324542_5909573054505156608_n.jpg[/quote] That’s pretty wild
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Bungie cannot control how steam works (its naming policy, messaging, etc.). But hacking I totally get. With it going F2P and on steam this sadly is going to happen. And also, that player is probably not new considering that that player happened to know somehow about recluse and such, really makes me think they aren't actually new and they are trying to make you feel bad or some lame shit.
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I find it sad that the community we have is one that is not open to feedback from their peers.
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While im personally ok with vulgarity ill still chuck ya an upvote. Kids play this game after all and im sure there are parents out there who would rather not have their kids thinking its ok to use that sort of language because they saw a few people at the tower with vulgar names. In an ideal scenario there would be a filter for these names so people can still be comedic edgelords while the people who want a more family experience could get it but i dont see it happening. Perhaps a fix for this would be having people use their bungie account as their in game names so bungie can moderate this?
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Letting people use their steam names was a mistake because oh man I've seen some doozies. Not the racist ones, but the ones that are just like. Strings of emojis that fill the entire chat box. Those are the ones that make me flip my shit.
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hah, pathetic
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Really? That’s what you choose to be offended over? Steam names are one of the best things in D2 now. Ya need to see it for what it is, a joke
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Lmao the Steam names are hilarious and I could not be happier that the game moved to Steam because of it
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4 RepliesFunny names = Bad? Yeah no. Best part of steam is seeing names like Scrota Sack Of Oryx or just a simple "JoE" lol
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1 ReplyFirst off you might get ninja'ed and banned due to Bungies nameshame policy so I would advise editing out the names. Secondly I would argue that only one or two of those is actually offensive. Immature yes but hardly offensive. Seen way worse than that back in my BO1 days before everyone became a bunch of sensitive ❄❄❄
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I don't get how the # name is offensive
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Edited by Lord_Shar: 11/13/2019 12:50:11 AMOne of my old gaming buddies played a rogue in Everquest... the character's name chosen was [spoiler]n!p-t!ckl3 [/spoiler]which was an old world cut-purse slang for discretely slicing the target's purse strings to get their gold coins. Obviously someone took offense and reported my buddy, even though the name had context and was chosen innocently. Looking back, that person realized their mistake and chose a more family-friendly screen name after being investigated by a game moderator.
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steam is trash