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Why no one even bothered to announce Season Passes becoming account-bound?

Why don't we get any announcements whatsoever about such a major change in how those "Season Passes" work, compared to all other DLCs since D1 and, more importantly, the "Annual Pass" from Forsaken? Passes are now account-bound, and not system-bound. That means that my wife doesn't have access to them, despite we use one PS4 (all games are purchased on my account). Nevermind the premium track, but Vex Offensive and other seasonal events - that's major bummer. You might say "Shadowkeep is available for all accounts, what do you want?". Yes, it's available. But compare that to Y2: I've purchased Forsaken and Annual Pass => main campaign and all "seasons" were enabled to my wife (as she is basically the only destiny player on our PS4) and me. And suddenly 4 Season Passes from Y3 are totally different from Y2's Annual Pass. This 4SP =/= AP is clearly unexpected - if you change how things work, then change the name as well. This change was not communicated at all! And that's a much bigger issue on Bungie side, given all the ViDocs, TWABs and those humongous Director's Cuts. There was a lot of guides on "how to activate Cross-Save and not screw up", a lot of info about new content, new armor, bungie's intentions and plans about the game. About this - not a single word. How come? Really makes you think. Is "Destiny goes F2P" and "New Light" just a deliberate scam? If someone at Bungie would be so kind to explain this stuff, I'd just bought that deluxe edition from wife's account and there will be no problem at all, cos I don't play that much for seasons to matter. I've purchased them not for the silver, but through PS Store pre-order, so don't tell me it was an "in-game" purchase, because it's not. EDIT Disproving "proofs" some people provide about "they've told you" (sorry, can't make a link to individual comments): * About [url=https://twitter.com/GriffinWB/status/1174379625973080064?s=20]the tweet[/url] and [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/d61fte/season_passes_are_accountbased_not_platformbased/]thread on reddit[/url]: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/253793009?sort=0&page=0&path=1 * About the [url=https://kotaku.com/destiny-2s-seasons-will-work-much-differently-this-year-1837714792]article on kotaku[/url] and corresponding [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/48097]bungie's post[/url]: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/253802089?sort=0&page=0&path=1

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  • Yeah my brother and I have always shared games on our PS4 and I got all the preorder stuff, can access the moon and my season pass is locked. It even treats me like I’ve never played Destiny before and said it unlocked all the locations when the game initially loaded. [u][b]What The Frapaccino!!![/b][/u] Bungie seriously we bought the bloody pass every freaking year and you do this crap now. Talk about false advertising. This is low even for you. If you could see my dissatisfaction and disappointment you would be catatonic. I know I’m not the only one saying this... give us what we paid for! And if you are going to do a drastic change tell us.... use words. That’s what grownups do. It’s called COMMUNICATION!!! And mutual respect of your player base... you know your income!

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    • Edited by Fate: 10/6/2019 6:31:03 PM
      Always read the fine print before you buy I always do The description tells you it’s one per account

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    • called read twab

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    • That is totally scummy.

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    • You can’t game share micro transactions in any other game stop your whining

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      • Oh boo hoo - a company wants to make money and circumvented your barely concealed attempt at an activity that's basically theft. -blam!-ing cry babies.

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        • Because they knew it would be worth the pr risk to get enough people to just say, -blam!- it, I'll just pay for it again.

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          • Yes, it was totally unethical on Bungie's part to not inform everyone before the release. Forsaken annual pass was shareable and when they changed it, they should have informed people. Doesn't even take any effort, just a line of text.

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            • Shadowkeep's product description on the PSN store only mentions that it 'includes four season passes', and doesn't make any more mention of what a season pass is. Luckily, PlayStation has a help screen to describe it for you. https://www.playstation.com/en-in/get-help/help-library/store---transactions/playstation-store-information---pre-orders/information-about-season-passes/ [quote][b]What is a season pass?[/b] A season pass is an extra service attached to game or video title which, after you have purchased it, allows you to get selected content from PlayStation Store at a discount or at no extra cost. Content provided with a season pass is yours to keep as long as you have it on your Download List/Library or it is available through PlayStation Store. For example, if a game has a number of expansion packs that are scheduled for release over the next year, you can buy the season pass with a one-off payment. This entitles you to download all of the expansion packs included in the season pass without paying, instead of paying for each pack as it gets released. Season passes can be bought on either a master account or a sub account (subject to content age ratings).[/quote] So what do we know now? - It's added to your download list/library - It's available through the PlayStation Store - They can be purchased through a Master (Adult Family Member) account It's clear that Bungie's "Season Pass" does not match the description of an already established Season Pass. Therefore, Bungie has been deceptive and misleading.

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              • Yeah dude, finally someone says it. I always buy everything on my sister's account and when I didn't have access to the Season Pass I was like wtf. Sly and disgusting move from Bungie this time around.

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                • Works on xbox

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                  • So you share a PS4 with your wife? Why does she not have her own? Oo

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                    • Because they are sly it’s disgusting

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                      • They pulled SNEAKY because they are just getting worse and worse ......They changed the Season Pass from a Console store purchase , which is covered by Xbox and Play Stations shared content set up I.e. gameshare for Xbox . So they can circumvent that and charge everyone for the season pass like the trolls they are .... by putting it into their in game store for Silver lmao But hey fanboys Bungle cares about you so hurry up come defend the little liars . Oh it’s because of account migration lol

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                      • In order for cross save to function properly it had to become account bound. This had nothing to do with greed. You should be able to buy a season pass from eververse for $19. I’m not sure if it’s available yet. The information was out there a while back, you must have missed it.

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                        • I like how you call this a scam when game sharing has been scamming companies for years. Such a good concept ruined by lazy, greedy people.

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                          • [quote]Why don't we get any announcements whatsoever about such a major change in how those "Season Passes" work, compared to all other DLCs since D1 and, more importantly, the "Annual Pass" from Forsaken? Passes are now account-bound, and not system-bound. That means that my wife doesn't have access to them, despite we use one PS4 (all games are purchased on my account). Nevermind the premium track, but Vex Offensive and other seasonal events - that's major bummer. You might say "Shadowkeep is available for all accounts, what do you want?". Yes, it's available. But compare that to Y2: I've purchased Forsaken and Annual Pass => main campaign and all "seasons" were enabled to my wife (as she is basically the only destiny player on our PS4) and me. And suddenly 4 Season Passes from Y3 are totally different from Y2's Annual Pass. This 4SP =/= AP is clearly unexpected - if you change how things work, then change the name as well. This change was not communicated at all! And that's a much bigger issue on Bungie side, given all the ViDocs, TWABs and those humongous Director's Cuts. There was a lot of guides on "how to activate Cross-Save and not screw up", a lot of info about new content, new armor, bungie's intentions and plans about the game. About this - not a single word. How come? Really makes you think. Is "Destiny goes F2P" and "New Light" just a deliberate scam? If someone at Bungie would be so kind to explain this stuff, I'd just bought that deluxe edition from wife's account and there will be no problem at all, cos I don't play that much for seasons to matter. I've purchased them not for the silver, but through PS Store pre-order, so don't tell me it was an "in-game" purchase, because it's not.[/quote] I am in the same shit and can’t have the season pass on my main account I request the refund because was not mention in the deluxe edition that the pass is attach to the account instead of the console....with all other DLC everything was related to the console...and now? We are unable to play with all the accounts on the same console...

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                            • I don't understand people who agree with this "because it's normal, everybody does it ....) Dear Bungee - I bought your game at PPStore in the description is written - the game contains 4 seasonal passes (deluxe), you have been operating on the console market for a long time and you are well aware that I, as a consumer, have the right to share the game with a related account (which is probably included in its prices) The game I bought does not work fully on my second account, it's a misleading consumer, I don't know about you in the US but in the EU it is forbidden. It is not important how the rights are transferred, it's your business - you can even tie it to a neighbor's dog - I demand for what I paid no less, no more (description on PSStore)

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                              • So I’m the only player on my PS4 I have 2 accounts my 2nd account now has a lot more game time and done most things in the game on it does this mean I won’t have the season pass for this account the bottom section is locked on my artifact will the pass be unlocked for my old account instead then ?

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                                • This is from September 19th. [quote]there's a few things Destiny 2 players will want to know about this Season Pass. Purchasing the Shadowkeep expansion unlocks the full version, but for those who just want access to the season pass, it can be bought on its own for 1,000 Silver.[/quote] https://gamerant.com/destiny-2-shadowkeep-undying-season-pass-free-premium-rewards/

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                                • Edited by Courtney Rose: 10/5/2019 7:26:52 PM
                                  I game share with my boyfriend and I got everything but the season pass, which I had to spend money on to buy with silver.

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                                • Edited by Necrogen: 10/4/2019 3:09:43 PM
                                  Season Passes will be applied to the first set of characters that signs in. If you plan to Cross Save but will use other characters later, it's recommended to set up Cross Save before logging in. For more information visit https://bungie.net/CrossSave 2/11 6:49 PM · Sep 30, 2019 But hey, they don't say anything. Cross save on the [b][i]bungie app[/i][/b] was on for a [b][i]long time.[/i][/b] Just admit you people don't read and you'll have a better day.

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                                  • What a load of BS and hyperbole. What actual difference does it make? The information was out there, but in your opinion it wasnt displayed well enough. Ok? Had you known in advance what would you have done? If the answer was buy two, then there is no problem. If the answer was that you refuse, then chalk it up to being pissed at a company and move on. I don't get what you want here in the end, or if this is just post--blam!-. Pay or dont. Play or don't. Tbh no one really gives a damn.

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                                    • Why would anyone have to? Different accounts, even on the same console, have different character sets in D2, and the Season Pass is for 1 character set only. I figured common sense would tell people they'd have to buy a season pass for each.

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                                        It's like £10? That's an hours wage...

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                                        • I love how everyone’s mad that they can’t essentially steal the content any more 😂

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