The new AR exotic with ShankBurn is gonna be lit though.

Mountaintop will now be renamed to Hilltop. And the PvP map Felwinter's Peak will now be renamed to Felwinter's Halfway Base Camp.

Won’t make me use Field prep or Genesis either

I’d like to mention the 20-40% increase in damage to all primary weapons and snipers in PvE. If you work out the damage, it will be roughly the same. Rampage is being adjusted to be more like pvp in PvE as far as how much damage is boosted. Take it like this. Say right now, Autos are dealing 100 damage per bullet in PvE. - One stack of Rampage Grants +35% Damage. 100 +35% = 135 Damage. - two stacks Grants 50%. 100 +50% = 150. - three stacks Grants 65% Damage. 100 +65% = 165 Damage. Now Autos are getting a +25% Increase to base damage on the low end. And Rampage will grant 10%, 25%, and 35% bonus on activation. Now Autos will be dealing 125 damage at base in PvE on the low end. - 1 stack of Rampage will now grant 10%. 125 + 10% =137 Damage. - 2 stacks will Grant 25%. 125 +25% = 156.25. - 3 stacks will grant 35%. 125 +35% = 168.75. As you can see we’ll be doing slightly more damage after the update even with the nerfs to damage perks. This was more to reduce our dependency on these perks and allow other perks to flourish. Kill clip: [spoiler]currently Grants +50% Damage on activation. Keeping our example of an auto dealing 100 damage now. - 100 + 50% = 150 Damage. - 125 + 33% = 166.25 Damage. [/spoiler] Swashbuckler: [spoiler]currently Grants 13% per stack in PvE and up to 33% in pvp. - 100 + 13 = 113 - 100 + 26 = 126 - 100 + 39 = 139 - 100 + 52 = 152 - 100 + 65 = 165 Now: - 125 + 6.6 = 133.25 - 125 + 13.2 = 141.5 - 125 + 19.8 = 149.75 - 125 + 26.4 = 161.352 - 125 + 33 = 166.25[/spoiler] Precision damage increases with damage as it is a multiplier. The nerf to precision damage reduced the multiplier by 50%. Using an auto Rifle, 100 Damage per shot as usual. Rapid fire AR’s have a precision Damage multiplier of 1.5. Now reduced to 1.25 with the change (a 50% reduction in bonus damage.) Base damage * precision multiplier * Kill Clip (No kill clip) 100*1.5*1 = 150 125*1.25*1 = 156.25 (Kill Clip) 100*1.5*1.5= 225 125*1.25*1.333= 208.3 The only time you’re loosing damage is at the higher stacks of a Damage bonus. This will only noticeably effect kill clip, 3x ramapage, and 4&5x Swashbuckler. At that point it’s just maybe 1 more rapid Fire AR bullet to kill. Not really noticeable. Not saying it’s a great thing for them to do, but it’s not the end of the world. People need to pay attention to the total view before jumping to conclusions. If anything we need to wait until shadowkeep comes out before we go crazy. This just shows that the damage boosting perks will still be just as strong. Bungie is just making it easier for us to pick things like zen moment, Field Prep or Triple Tap over a Damage perk instead of just tossing out the weapon.

Anything that offers a damage boost, is literally all I’m going to use. My one goal is to absolutely steam roll all content and destroy everything with as little effort as possible. That’s why I play this game, bc it’s fun. I have no interest in all the other garbage perks in the perk pool. Air assault, hip fire grip, never.

So, there's two main issues with Bungie's approach here. 1. Rampage, Kill Clip, Swashbuckler, Surrounded are [i]still[/i] better for PvE use than ones like Field Prep, Air Assault, and Under Pressure. and 2. Because of this, the new "Ritual Weapons" being curated rolls will either guarantee that they have these better perks, or be trash. The balanced weapons among the Pinnacles (Breakneck, 21%, Loaded Question, Wendigo, Redrix's) all were desirable because of that unique perk. The chase for these Ritual Weapons will more than likely be brief and unrewarding, and either reward an Outlaw/Kill Clip crucible scout, which you very well could have gotten a random roll of by then, or just be relegated to a spot in our banks (like Hush). I really don't get what they're going for here. More of the Pinnacle Weapons were balanced (or bad, my sweet sweet Oxygen SR-3) than not. But, this is sort of Bungie's M.O, isn't it? "A handful of Pinnacle Weapons are broken. Delete Pinnacle Weapons." "Master of Arms is broken. Nerf every damage buffing perk." Bungie needs to understand that people, and it isn't just content creators, streamers, or world's first raiders, are just going to use the best possible, most optimal, highest damage-dealing thing [i]no matter what it is.[/i] It's that simple. If it's a pulse, or a rocket, or a sword. People will use it and chase it to the ends of the earth. So, the solution is to either let everything be viable wherein, everything is broken and overpowered, and the game might be a little more fun, or everything is watered down, undertuned, and people just keep on using whatever the new hotness is for the season (Are my Bubble Buddies ready for Helm of Saint-14 to be a thing again).

I swear people only hear or read when its a nerf and pay no attention to the other buffs in the game.

Think about this for a minute: They absolutely nerfed Whisper into the dirt a season or two ago, now with the nerfs to well, damage stacking, reloading, and now rampage / kill clip etc... they actually managed to re-ascend whisper to the top of the pile, not by buffing it into relevancy, but by making everything else around it useless. "Fixed an issue where players were having fun" - Bungie

In a game where the objective is to do damage, why wouldn’t I use things that make me do more damage? This doesn’t change what perks people look for (especially with the enemy precision nerfs). It just reigns in our power a bit more.

I like how they waited until the last second to put this information out. Gotta get those pre-orders in before they actually tell us what we bought. Bad Bungie just bad.

Why make content harder when the rewards are trash? Its good i can finish a strike in 5 mins, because investing any more time isn't worth it for the rewards.

No, it won’t. But that’s not to say they shouldn’t be tweaked anyway. They laid out their reasoning and I found it perfectly reasonable. The current meta had drifted into a parody of its former self lately - might as well have been an easy button. I’ll welcome some challenge back into the mix.