A huge weakness for the Destiny community is that 98% of content creators are all on pc while 80% of us play a very different game.
What are we supposed to take away from 180 degree snap turns and 30 meter Last Word shootouts? What do we learn from weapon reviews of guns that have no bloom or recoil?
There’s like three community leaders left on console and it really f****** sucks man.
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1 ReplyYou’re blaming content creators when it’s not their fault the game is completely different on consoles. Some of them may not even know just how different it really is. They may hear about it but if they aren’t playing it or haven’t in literally years at this point how do you expect them to understand your plight? Blame Bungie for leaving bloom in the game 5 years later. Blame Bungie for hand cannons feeling horrible on controllers. Blame Bungie for restricting your sensitivity as tightly as they have. It’s not the content creators fault, they aren’t game designers. But there are good creators on console you can follow, like Aztecross. He has informative content that spans across both console and occasionally pc.
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1 ReplyPeople like aztecross and coolguy talk bout both pc and console
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1 ReplyThis dude has a point
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A few small time content creators do reviews on console but no one watch them because they don’t make 10 min videos full of fluff or plugs and get to the point in the 2 min and done.
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There are some really good console content creators out there, like Destiny Fun police or people like Aztecross who do reviews for each platform
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1 ReplyIt's all about context. As a PC player for over 30 years, I just [i]hate[/i] some of the UI decisions that get carried over from consoles. The menu system, for example, is a nightmare. I have more than 100 keys, let me bind them to menu tabs and such. Back in the day it wasn't unusual for games to come with one of [url=http://i.imgur.com/NgzePLl.png]these[/url] in the box. Great, let me have it, I have 10 fingers and I'm not afraid to use them! And tying multiple actions to the same key? The number of times I've died because I tried to throw a knife at an exploding thrall and lunged into a melee instead... grrr! And it's not like they didn't have the PC kings to help out... I mean, can you imagine Diablo 3 PC with the console UI? Ouch! Also, this goes both ways. I recently watched a vid about a god-rolled sniper (max range Bite of the Fox with Opening shot + targeting adjuster + enhanced sniper aim) and how easy it was to use. It so happened that it dropped for me literally minutes later, so I had to try it... completely different game on PC compared to console! Aim 5 pixels (about an inch IRL) to the right and you miss. Literally, I screenshot it. Freezeframe the vid, and you could see aim assist kicking in at about 6-8 inches ti the side. The hitbox of the guardian's head on console is literally about as big as a beach ball with that roll. At the end of the day, PC and console are different worlds. They might need to be balanced differently, even down to stats, not just how they apply. Ideally, we want good weapons to be good regardless of platform. It would be extremely difficult to pull off, but it would also be awesome.
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I hope they all go away and have to get real jobs.
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13 RepliesWhy do you people call streamers "content creators"? They aren't creating shit, they're just editing videos of them playing content created by Bungie. I even enjoy watching the occasional Aztecross weapon review(though he's about the only one I can stand because he doesn't drone on like Datto, Houndish, etc) and I respect what he's doing, but it's not really his own content... It's his opinion of that content. That would be like me performing a cover of a Slayer song and calling it my music. It's not... It's my performance of said music.
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1 Replyand all of that while content creators are really doubting that the game on console is different than on PC.. i really like the streams of "say no to rage" but i had a stream yesterday where we discussed if "worlds first" should be per platform.. and while i definitely wont die on that hill if there is a PC only race and i think it would be unfair, it seems that there is a huge hesitation of content creators to actually SEE the differences between the two platforms and state things like "load times dont impact the game much" "the 60fps dont impact the game much" "bloom doesnt impact the game much" "recoil doesnt impact the game much" all while every one of those issues might be true , ALL of them pose a serious difference between console and pc.. and while i wont get grey hairs over worlds first being only battled out amongst PC streamers and i can grasp the idea that worlds 12th might be worlds first on console and that might be perceived as an unfair competition, i would still want to point out that, while the differences are not MASSIVE between console and PC they are noticeable. and influential.. just count the videos of "zero hour solo guide" for PC versus the ONE guide i had found on console where the guy barely made it. while solo on pc is like a 7 minute speedrun. and also those 2 manning CoS works only because you can safely land shots with a machine gun cross map.. thats not happening on console.. and what i fear is that the devs will play and develop on pc and playtest on pc and people on console will get a way more challenging experience on PC since the devs adjust the difficulty to PC. and PC players will do anything to protect this.. and then player numbers fall off sicne more and more consolerios will just quit . *shrug* addendum: the insult to injury , "dont be a broke ass and get a gaming pc" doesnt work here. Since the console has a very good spot in the common household for NON gamers to be the main source for gaming since not everyone has the need or the place for a desktop rig and a setup for this.. and i happily admit that i like to play on my 54" TV on my couch and so do many other.. i dont want to sit in front of a 24" screen on my desk.. not only because i dont have a desk at home.
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Thats why i only watch youtubers for game info, not gun/armor reviews. If i want to know if somethings good for me or not ill actually use it myself for a while. If i see no results its either dismantled or if its a god/demi-god roll ill vault it in case a buff or patch comes out then ill try it again. But i dont watch any youtuber for the purpose of any gun/gear review because the PC/console dofference is so drastic and virtually nothing they say has anything to do with my platform so i dont even bother clicking on the review videos. The ONLY 2 i watch for guns is Fallout and Diaside for god roll guns to see what perks would be the best options, after that, i watch Aztecross for game updates, patch notes, hot fixes ect and My Name is Byf for lore (all hail Byf) and thats it. The rest can suck sand and pound eggs for all i care. #NotMyPlatform #NotMyYoutuber #HesStillYourPresident
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28 RepliesIt’s because it’s easier to play on PC. I play on PS4 myself and it requires far more skill on a thumb stick than a mouse.
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It’s just the truth nobody has yet to accept in #feedback after Destiny 2 went to PC finally. Console and PC are [b][u]completely[/u][/b] two different versions in gameplay. It’s just too taboo for this community to explain which version is inferior or over optimized.
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I love how everyone’s missing your point and bashing because pc players are elitists . Play where you want how you want. They put out the op guide videos there the problem and the reason everything gets outta hand .
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Really good point
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3 RepliesI've played on console for the entire length of D2 for simple reasons..1. All my friends are on console. Recently with cross save I've went to PC for awhile to test the waters, the game is so much -blam!-ing easier once you get the DPI, Sensitivity, FOV and keyboard down. It literally went from someone of a pain in the ass to easy mode, the shit I was pulling on PC I could never do on console and dropped my first 50 kill game. It's literally stupid
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1 ReplyThis ain't a comment towards you, but more towards the topic of PC players. PC players that brag or tell you to move to PC either don't realize 1. People don't have the money to keep up with a pc, I.E. upgrading parts. 2. People may prefer to play on a console, no the argument of using a controller on pc isn't for that. They may happen to have most of the friends they've made on console. 3. People don't like how imbalanced one side is to the other, that's like having a child and starving the other one.
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6 RepliesI see a lot of comments about how PC is better etc. I don’t disagree that PC is better, but I think OPs point is that most people play on console so content and gameplay should be based on console experience rather than PC.
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9 RepliesStop watching. All they do is bloat content to hit the 10 min mark. 0:00-2:00 talking about what they're going to talk about 2:00-3:00 pushing sponsored crap 3:00-6:00 talking about content 6:00-8:00 summarizing what they talked about 8:00-10:00 subscribe blah blah blah.
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1 ReplyI've stopped watching almost all of them. No interest in watching PC gameplay.
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3 RepliesAs a PC player who missed out on the first Destiny, just know that we never intended for things to end up this way, we just wanted to play Destiny as well. No elitism here, I played on consoles for decades, but I decided to go with PC this generation due to a few of the PC exclusives I really wanted to play, and also the fact that I needed a new PC and could only financially justify either a new PC or a new gaming console. What really sucks isn't just the disparity in speed and precision between controller and mouse+keyboard, it's also the fact that recoil and bloom works entirely differently on console versions than it does on PC.
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... Because Destiny 2 on console sucks??? 30 FPS now actually feels so slow whenever I swap from PC to console now... it actually hurts my eyes a bit. It isn't even a contest... PC is better to play on by a country mile than console.
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It does make it hard to relate and has turned me off to some channels.
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1 ReplyEdited by RANGERX117: 9/9/2019 1:31:52 PMSo what? Content Creators are trying to make a buck.....they are not doing this for you. Do you have to watch youtube to play this game?
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2 RepliesBuild a PC, join the master race.
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1 ReplyPC should be not or feel like a different game definitely when they people with the original Xbox and ps4 that don’t have the money or the friend groups just to go out and spend 100 pounds on a new computer so they can play pretty much the deluxe version of Destiny!
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10 RepliesAfter seeing the crap Datto can do on PC with weapons that’s not possible in console I consider them all cowards and take their skill with a grain of salt. I remember when Datto first went to PC and was using a pulse that was like a laser. I get it on Xbox and it’s nowhere near as good. Also, Recluse is like a laser and has sniper range on PC with no recoil. They need to nerf all PC guns so they suck like they do on console.