Lol another hunter cry post...how original.

OEM got nerfed too, and the dmg and Overshield are very short lived. If you see a OEM Titan with overshield, back off and don't push. If you get hit with a OEM Titan, don't peek. Ez pz, just forces you to think a little more

Wormhusk isn't useless. It's not amazing, but it's not terrible. OEM is pretty silly though. I bought it from Xur yesterday and within 5 minutes of using it I was like "How tf did this get through playtesting?" Like, each part of OEM is fine on its own. [b]Exotic that gives you wallhacks when you take damage?[/b] Fine. A bit niche especially as it can only be on one target at a time. [b]Exotic that gives you overshield when you get a kill?[/b] Fine. Still kind of good as it's basically Skullfort but without specifically requiring [i]Arc Melee Ability[/i] kills. [b]Exotic that gives essentially Kill Clip to whatever weapons you have?[/b] Fine. That's actually pretty strong (Especially since it's not actually KC and so you can swap weapons and retain the buff, it also stacks with KC if you're using a weapon with it) [b] Exotic that gives you wallhacks when you take damage, gives you an overshield when you get a kill and gives essentially Kill Clip to whatever weapons you have?[/b] Uhhh... This is 3 Exotics in one item... Like even the advice of "Lul just win your 1v1's" as counterplay doesn't change the fact that the item itself is bloated in what it provides and can be capitalized on by a decent player to become monstrous as they can get momentum with the overshield and damage boosts to keep winning more and more 1v1's because they have such an advantage. At best I could see the item being a lot more in line if it had the wall hack thing and ONE of the 2 kill bonuses, it'd still be potent in the right hands and can help snowball, but it'd be less ridiculously bloated than it is now.

Can we get instant reload in a gunfight?

Sad part is that the OEM we are experiencing is a the nerfed version. Tracking use to last much longer, health regen was instant and it worked in Supers showing full well Bungie never bother to play test that exotic. If it loses the tracking through walls or the overshield on kills I think it would be fine. If it were me it would only highlight targeted enemies when visible and grant overshield when killing targeted enemies still.

Titans have to get a Kill from a gunfight from the guy who had FIRST shots at the oem titan! If the titan wins he get the perk which is well deserved Hunters just mash O,O for full health and shields so easy and cheap Stop crying

Why does everyone gloss over the fact that OEM requires a kill to proc its wormhusk-esque perk?

[quote]Became pretty much useless. But titans get an over shield, see through walls and damage buff.[/quote] OEM got a nerf... Hunters get wall hacks just for being easy mode, now all of a sudden "tRAckInG ToO hArD!". Wormhusk gave free health just for being hunters and dodging. Foetracer marks enemies and buffs damage as well just for being hunters. As for the rest of that post, hunters get instant-reload, which in a shooter game, increases damage output and time to kill significantly. Rally barricade would be cool if it didn't make you a sitting duck behind a neon wall saying "aim here". Add in the biggest crutch super ever that kills every other super, binds enemies together, shares damage, slows movement, and throws off aim (along with insta-kill fire knives, super one-shot fire gun, invincible arc staff, and don't forget spectral blades that can go from one spawn to the next) it can't get much easier. Now imagine being the least played character (as a titan), and every crucible match you have to face at least 3-4 easy-mode insta-reload-dodge invisible hunters. Also OEM isn't the only thing that grants overshield, but apprently people who don't play titans don't understand this, as it's their most popular argument. Other characters get overshields also. Other characters get damage buffs. Wishender sees through walls, and they gave hunters gloves with unlimited draw-hold time so you can see through walls infinitely. How much more easy mode do y'all want it? Have titans just spawn in a match and stand there lol?

[quote]Became pretty much useless. But titans get an over shield, see through walls and damage buff. Ohk shoulder charge on all classes. And a super that last enough to travel from one side of the map to the other. Crucible is so broken with oem striker titans. God forbid we get health on dodge....and not a dang overshield.[/quote] That being the case quit crucible, lots of pvp centric games out there

Mods really need to start merging these threads. And the Husk gets health on demand. Not from winning a gunfight. Big difference.

You get health and a shield bump with wormhusk now it’s still good. Use max paragon mods and bottom tree arcstrider and you become unkillable.

I believe Roaming Supers need a kill limit in PvP, the limit would pop up in your HUD. So let’s say the limit would be (5 kills) for quickplay and (2) for comp, except for clash and control (4). This way Supers can’t wipe teams over and over again, you either reach the kill limit or your super expires first. Once you hit your limit you’re ripped out of your Super. Now, no more Super nerfs are required to balance PvP while PvE remains unaffected!

Hunters got the buffs for absolutely nothing. Titans have to get a kill for anything to kick in