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Edited by lemoncurdman: 7/29/2019 12:21:39 PM
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One eyed mask is still too powerful in crucible

Hunters and warlocks don't have an exotic that 1. buffs damage 2.restores health 3. grants OVERSHIELD And all because you got a kill on someone who shot you. if anyhting it shouldnt grant an overshield and should not be as easy to acquire said buffs. Say for example if you only allowed it to be activated while critically injured then that would be actually balanced.

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  • Ya take that out combined with a nerf to bottom tree striker what do we have left. Shut up and stop crying.

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  • Edited by jonpall: 8/2/2019 10:32:29 PM
    yet another reasonable post that just gets downvoted to oblivion by people who think that being punished for shooting someone and wallhacks in general in an arena shooter fps are things that should exist

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    Ultimately, I think the goal should just be getting rid of wallhacks in PvP overall, not just for OEM. Unless it's on some giant cooldown like on a Super only, playing against wallhacks in any form is something I think we can all agree is just straight unfun. Bungie probably created a lot of the Forsaken Exotics/abilities as overcompensation for how weak players felt in Year 1 when we had double primaries and less frequent abilities.

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  • Edited by Alphard: 7/30/2019 3:02:23 PM
    ...Says all the hunter mains who abused the shit out of Wormhusk Crown last year and made Crucible unplayable. That didn't even require you to win your one on ones, just dodge to heal and punch to dodge if you were on Arc Strider. (Which most Wormhusk Crown users were running). Required zero skill and ruined Crucible for a long long time before it was touched. OEM has already been nerfed too. Its Vengence time went down from 16 seconds to 8 seconds. The over-shield and health regeneration come back so slow, that if you're not strategic, you will instantly get shot out of it before your health and overshield can even come back. If you're being reckless with the mask, you will die constantly anyway. The nerf forced people to play strategically with it and it was a fair nerf. Now if Titans had ANY other choice on an exotic, people wouldn't be using it so much. Its ALL they have for PVP. By that logic (or lack of) Stompees should be nerfed because, thats all Hunters use? I say no. Its annoying to go head to head against a Stompees user, which most are, but I'm not going to cry nerf over it. Overall, Titans were forced to get good in this current state of the game that puts them at a disadvantage. Its not the OEM. If you suck in PVP and can't win your 1 on 1s, or can't get away fast enough after your successful kill, it just won't work for you. INB4: Bottom Tree striker. ALL supers need a nerf to their damage resistance while in your super. Stormcaller, Arc Strider, Spectral, Striker, ALL of them need a nerf on how tanky they are. Broken supers are the real issue here. (And BUFF Thundercrash for PVE!) [spoiler]All troll posts will be instantly muted. If you disagree and want to discuss it like an adult, by all means. 😊[/spoiler]

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    • Edited by Unbreakable Patches: 7/30/2019 6:47:47 AM
      The one eyed mask isn’t that strong. It’s simply that Titans literally have no other decent exotic armor options for PvP

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      • True. But i Played a few matches with wards. Idea is great but perk is inconsistent. All chests are mediocre at best. Don’t have greaves but gauntlets are not useful at all. All other helms are weak except skullfort, but that exotic caters to a lot of running and does not fit a passive playstyle. Titans need better exotics for medium players

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      • Edited by Hazel: 7/30/2019 6:44:45 PM
        One eyed mask obviously needs to be removed but what almost must happen is a rework of 3 titan subclass trees to be competitively viable in pvp. Right now bottom tree striker is the only viable tree and that's only becuase of the super. The 2 non-super perks, the melee buff and knockout, are really great for farming bad players but not that great against good players. They don't change the ttk drastically and the melee perk is pretty much impossible to proc without dying immediately after. If you get a melee hit and live you've probably wiped the team and therefore have to waste half of it going to the other spawn. Not to mention that titan lift is super clunky compared to warlock glide and clearly outclassed by control jump for hunters. The reason warlocks and hunters (especially hunters) are sooo much more popular at a high level is that they don't need an exotic to be playable, their pvp subclass trees and movement feel great on their own.

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        • Please shut up and stop trying to ruin the 1 good exotic we have.

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          • Just bring Back wormhusk

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          • Yes remove more things for titans so they can be the worst in pvp and pve thats balance

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            • You realize you have ALREADY WON this debate. This post has come up so much, and there are (indeed) posts from cozmo and dmg on said issue. It’s not only this. Titans have been complained enough on supers and abilities as well. I hate to tell all titan users this, but titans are about to be one of the worst classes in pvp and EVEN WORSE in pve. No fireteam will ever want a titan again... It sucks, but this is the only future left now... No titan armor exotic will be useful in either pvp or pve after the inevitable nerf. Titans will be flat out deleted by nearly every person for being worthless. You’ve won buddy. Why are you still complaining on the forums. Complaining on the forums after you have already have a guaranteed victory will NOT make the update come faster... Just celebrate your victory with cake and wine and wait for titan doomsday like all other people have too. But, this also brings up one other rather important detail... Which class will be next? Undoubtedly, after this, pvp will be shaken up, and a new class will take the mantle of OP. They get nerfed. This cycle will continue, until every class is literally unusable in nearly all activities. All armor exotics will be trash. All abilities will be worthless. Is this what everyone wants?

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              • This is how an exotic should be. Unfortunately, most of the exotics in this game are trash, so decent one's like the OEM seem more powerful than they actually are. Sure a Honda Accord will seem like a super car when its competition are skateboards.

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              • 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕

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              • Edited by wes238: 8/1/2019 5:36:15 PM
                Rifts (healing and damage), a floating laser, life stealing melee for warlocks; Foetracer, wormhusk crown, instant reload(actually increases damage because you don't have to stop, drop a magazine, insert another magazine, and rack (edit for cocking being edited lol) the slide, making hunters shoot more bullets faster, therfore increasing damage), tracking, invisible, have a titan on your team with blessing of light. Titans get [b][u]one[/u][/b] piece of armor to balance going against 3-4 easy-mode hunters [u]every[/u] match and now hunters can't stop complaining about it.

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              • Healing on kills while critically injured.... say that sounds like another Titan exotic helm.....

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                • Git Gud

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                • Lol

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                • Edited by SIERRA - 117: 7/30/2019 2:44:48 PM
                  as a titan main who has killed OEM titans and has equally died to them, the exotic does not need to be nerfed anymore than it has been, nor does it need to be changed or modified. Other exotics for both hunters and warlocks like: wormhusk, eye of another world, ophidian, just to name a few need a buff and be up to par with OEM. Also stop trying to take titans head on! Titans take enemies head on. just look at their abilities! shoulder charges, their supers, everything about them is designed to punch their way through! thats why they are the easiest class to pick up and their exotics are decent. if a OEM titan is rushing a warlock who is wearing astrocyte, then the warlock should not panic but blink over the titan, spin around and nova bomb his ass out of existance. Lets say for instance that Astrocyte had received a buff to be on par with OEM, then the warlock could be blink further over the titan, receive a temporary overshield, be out of shotgun range and proceed to kill that titan who was hoping to get another easy kill. Lets also imagine that wormhusk crown got buff so that if a titan was trying to shoulder charge a hunter wearing WHC, then that exotic should allow the hunter to dodge the charge and get a temporary shield. You could then use that time flank that titan and get him with your super like blade barrage or use your mobius quiver to trap him and begin to eliminate him. The instances I came up with are ways that these other exotics should be buffed. nothing about them is changed but what they can do should be stronger! although OEM with its overshield and health regen is a pain in the ass, buffing other exotics so that you can blink further and faster, dodge better and gain a shield, or give your self more protection as you are casting your nova bomb, I believe can be just as effective if you remember to move around a titan and pass through his defenses instead of trying to take a titan head on!

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                  • potential fix, wearing the helm gives you less depth perception.

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                  • I totally agree with you in every way, as a hunter main i see this super unfair.

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                    • Annoying sometimes? Yes. Overpowered? No. Imo, I thinks it’s as annoying as Shoulder Charge

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                    • lol Zero upvotes....

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                    • I main a Hunter and after completing the IB quest I switched to the Titan with OEM. Totally enjoyed playing Titan. So much fun. I wish Wormhusk would be restored to its original strength. I wish my Warlock would be stronger in general. It’s not about Titans and OEM being powerful. The real issue is that the other classes need to be improved upon so Titan with OEM isn’t the only option for FUN gameplay.

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                      • It is so -blam!-ing overpowered that people (including me) often forget to mention one or two of its perks when talking about it. You forgot tracking.

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                      • Dude it’s all Titans have. Give them another PVP Exotic that lets them compete and usage will go down.

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                        • Never mind the fact that hunters on a crouching precision kill can. Go invis Go off radar while moving And get wall hacks on everyone WITHOUT AN EXOTIC grow up

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