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6/21/2019 9:03:18 AM
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Bad move disabling matchmaking for heroic Menagerie
Menagerie has received high praise, and a lot of that has been due to matchmaking without having to get on the mic and not having to wait on an ideal 6 man team from lfg. Why in the world would you go away from that for the heroic version? Just to appease the miniscule, hardcore player base, so they can feel special about themselves? You should have just changed the encounters slighty, increased the difficulty where a wipe took you back to a checkpoint instead of orbit, and kept matchmaking. I'm probably not even going to attempt the heroic version because I know it won't be fun having to deal with the same mess the raids bring to the table. Bad move, Bungie. You need to move away from forcing people onto lfg to complete activities.
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Sorry man i disagree i appreciate bungie making different things for different parts of the player base.
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You tried matchmaking into Tier 3 Reckoning lately? It’s suffering the same issues it did before. Anyone who doesn’t know what they’re doing uses matchmaking and subsequently fails. It’s why NOBODY matchmakes for Reckoning. The reason matchmaking has been such a success for Menagerie? YOU CANT. FAIL. Add that to something you can fail with power levels TWENTY LEVELS ABOVE MAX? You’re looking at something WORSE than Tier 3 Reckoning. And you people are still on the matchmaking train? Really? And no, having the option to matchmake is not a necessity. There’s ZERO reason to make the effort to put matchmaking in if NOBODY IS GOING TO USE IT. And even less if the few people that DO, aren’t even going to be able to complete the activity. Period. Don’t expect Bungie to put in effort to make matchmaking just so you have the “option” to waste your time.
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Lmao stfu. There was no mm for CoE either
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12 RepliesEdited by LordFastTrakz: 6/22/2019 1:11:59 PMPeople who want matchmaking can stick to normal menagerie that's not going away, Heroic is for the hardcore players who need communication and chemistry with dire consequences for failure. It is not intended for the average player, the difficulty scales to 770, a greater delta difference that the raid 24hr modifier was for worlds first. The game is catering to all levels of player with different activities and difficulties, just accept it and go do what you need to do to get involved if your good enough. Edit: Corrected the Light
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I'm a solo player. Let there be a non-matchmade Heroic Menagerie. There is no penalty for failing the activity. So why not let there be a challenge to the more hardcore players. [spoiler]I used to be one of them.😪[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyI'd love to see how frustrated you get when people troll you with extinguish on.
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I agree.. Why even do this?
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Just cause people like to play solo doesn't mean they're terrible or casuals. I see bunch of comments towards that. but It's probably better to lfg or form a fireteam in the beginning but I'm sure over time 6 random people will be able to do herioc. Escalation protocol is a prime example. I Dont agree with forming a fireteam but its for the better good. Come to think of when I let my 5 year old play, his teammates get pretty salty and irritated. You don't want him to matchmake his way onto your team
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So a heroic version of menagerie with the same terrible rewards sounds great. Sounds just like heroic strikes with just 6 people 👍
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1 ReplyEdited by cesar0s: 6/21/2019 9:47:00 PMNot really...the amount of trolls and sand baggers who are gonna purposely make everyone return to orbit would light the entire forums on fire. We are all much better off with these sort of complaint threads than what would come from everyone's first time being sent back to orbit due to a few randoms.
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3 RepliesBungie mentioned weeks ago that Heroic Menagerie wouldn't have matchmaking. Lol, took you whiner's long enough to work that out. Most Randy's can't even do Tier 3 reckoning. I'm glad there's no matchmaking otherwise it would be a shit show. Stop looking for a carry & jump on lfg or ya know maybe start interacting with your Clan mates
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Normal mode is the main mode and that’s why 90% of the chalice rewards are geared towards normal. If you think randoms can do heroic easily and on a day when the modifiers are awful etc then clearly you never tried t3 reckoning?
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1 ReplyEdited by GamingWithSilvertail: 6/22/2019 6:29:49 AMDo we even know how heroic is going to be changed? Also, raiding isnt that hard. :/ its just chaotic really.
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30 RepliesGreat move actually. Imagine matchmaking with people that either; A) don't have a mic B) rage quit after a death C) don't bother moving D) are under the required light level. Use the tools to your advantage, and lfg. Endgame activities should require coordinated teams.
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Edited by sophDeck: 6/21/2019 6:16:59 PMI am so for optional matchmaking in all activities, but I have to say, based on videos produced ahead of heroic release, there really isn’t much chance a match made team without comms stands a chance. I want to be on your side, but this time I just can’t.
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9 RepliesEdited by OpticStriker98: 6/22/2019 3:07:57 AMSeriously? Randoms still can’t complete full encounters or normal mode. You seriously think idiotic randoms could go through and do heroic without wiping? You don’t even play the Menagerie enough to think you know how it works.
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It’s heroic, it’s supposed to be endgame. You can’t achieve a lot of difficulty with matchmaking. It was the right move. If you don’t like it, play the normal version.
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8 RepliesI guess its easier to cry, complain and think bungie is going to change such a huge thing for people that arent playing the game how they sould play.... than actually finding a clan or a group to do the activity. I'll never understand why solo players find it so damn hard to find groups. Everytime thats just because they are lazy or they know they suck so they dont want to improve in order to hold themselves..so matchmaking is a great way to get free carries ;) I understand why there is solo players. I dont understand why they complain since nobody forced them to play solo... Because in fact...its a "multiplayer" game and we ALL know since almost 6years that you HAVE to find groups to do high end activities...if you keep complaining while knowing that...then idk what we can do. And for the heroic version of menagerie we already knew it wasnt going to have matchmaking.
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1 ReplyEdited by GrifterDeMier01: 6/22/2019 4:57:14 AMThey did this with nightfalls, prison of elders, heroic missions etc. etc. Bungie does this with every harder version of any activity. I'm surprised they don't have some weird game mechanic for public events that force you to be in a fire team in order to get the heroic completion. Bungie just likes to make things a lot harder than they need to be by forcing players to do things in certain ways. They have been doing this ever since the very beginning of D1. Gotta love how this got downvoted into the ground also. Probably by all the leet sweaty try hards with inferiority complexes that constantly defend that no matchmaking in raids is a good idea. (It's not, it's a horrible idea)
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2 Replies770 with an orbit kick mechanic is going to be pretty brutal, you have to admit. Honest question: what is the point of heroic mode other than triumphs and maybe imperials? Are there any weapons exclusive to heroic mode?
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1 ReplyNo communication on the heroic bosses WILL not end well for matchmaking. 770 and we don’t even know if mechanics are changing. 90% of match made heroics will fail.
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2 RepliesOkay you can add matchmaking to heroic but dont change anything else. I dont want it to be easier at all no check points and you go to orbit if your match made group fails. I want to see the percentage of groups that complete with that and we can see how much a waste of time adding that feature to future content will be so we can stop having this argument. I dont want to be mean but adding match making tends to lead to easier content and that I dont like. If they didnt dumb down any content for match making I would have no problem with it but history tells me otherwise.
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Heroic has extinguish so matchmaking would suck balls [spoiler]NUFF SAID[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyI agree. There should be matchmaking for every activity in the game.
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Agreed. It's a step backwards.
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2 RepliesEdited by Kevin: 6/22/2019 12:57:27 AMI like how Heroic hasn’t even dropped yet and you’re already complaining about it. I bet I’ll see your name complaining about the raid before it’s even announced.
