Bungie has to replace some employees who make important decisions. Otherwise so many wrong decisions results to the end of this game for the normal players and with them also for the streamers. it is very likely that Anthem and especially the division2 won't do these mistakes which Bungie made d2 y1 and mainly now, to sell nearly nothing in a dlc for a lot of money

Disagree. 1. As a hardcore Destiny player I don't want Destiny 2 to die. I want Bungie to learn from their mistakes. To stop FIGHTING the identity of the game they created, and stop STUBBORNLY ignoring the wishes of their average player. 2. I want them to do this because there are games coming out from more nimble developers that are positioning themselves to make a serious play for Destiny 2's PVE player base. So the ability for Bungie to take this game out into the wilderness, and bring it back safely is going away. 3. The Division 2 is coming out...and Massive took DIRECT aim at Bungie and their fiasco with vanilla D2. Stating "We are taking ALL the things we learned with the first game and putting it into the new game." Smack. 4. Mass Effect: Andromeda was the "rushed piece of shit" that IT was, for two reasons. One. Bioware was cannibalizing resource from ME: A to use in the development of ANTHEM. Two. It got pushed out the door before it was ready, because of point One. Bioware is taking direct aim at Bungie and Destiny by learning HARD into the games loot-based RPG identity....rather than fighting it as Bungie has. Bioware is also developing a uniques kind of story telling that may allow them to tell a better story with Anthem than Bungie can do with the design choices it made with Destiny. Bioware is also NOT HAVING PVP. Which frees them up to lean HARD into the power-fantasy of the game. Without having to worry about powerful gear "breaking" competitive multiplayer.....and the game's loot constantly getting nerfed. 5. Both games are coming out on modern game engines that were deisign specifically for the current generation of gaming hardware. Snowflake for The Division 2. Frostbite for Anthem.....and let me tell you, Bungie can't take either of these games for granted. Snowflake is very powerful....but Massive was so inexperienced at making shooter games and loot-based RPGs...that they were never really able to fully leverage what that engine could do. Early game footage is showing a very differently looking, surprisingly polished game. Showing LIVE footage, which you almost never see from an Ubisoft published game this far out from release. Frostbite is just a beast. As someone who played---and enjoyed----ME: A. The combat in that game was very smooth...and very satisfying....and Bioware appears to be kicking that up a notch for Anthem. The in-game footage looks IMPRESSIVE. Word of mouth from people who have played builds of the game at conferences is also impressive.... ...and with flying and the ability to hover-and-fight...Anthem is looking to give a game play experience that you can't get anywhere else. TLDR: Destiny 2 isn't going anywhere. But the days of it not having any real competition in the marketplace are coming to an end....and Bungie needs to step up their game...and stop breaking their own game with stubborn notions of how it "should" be played that have nothing to do with how it is actually being played by people who love it.

No game is going to kill Destiny, because Bungie is intent on killing it themselves.

People have been saying X will kill Destiny since the game dropped. Hasn’t happened, and never will. Destiny holds a special place in its players hearts. Sure, it’s not perfect, but it IS fun. Plus the lore alone is fantastic!!

The way I see it, the only thing that will destroy destiny will be a epic pve shooter, AND an epic pvp shooter being released at the same time! That being said most of us still here will probably remain through thick and thin! The one huge possitive about this game is that you can mindlessly play with friends, have fun and chat shit without affecting the game experience too much (varying team sizes are a wind up though)! That doesn't really happen too often in other games, for example: The division was dull to play solo, and co-op was kinda 'serious mode'; you would lose much of the experience whilst being sociable, so not a lot of fun either! ...but that game just wasn't for me; far too restrictive IMO! I probably wouldn't have got d2 but for the early release info which appealed to me; certainly the guided games looked like a fantastic addition to where d1 left off, but we all know how that turned out. And here I am with my 'must collect all' OCD, playing a game where I can't collect everything... because that's what I like to do! Madness!! Since playing the two destiny games I'd summarise it as this: D1 - after receiving an epic drop "OMG -blam!- YEAH" D2 - after receiving an epic drop "Finally!! I'm never doing that strike again!!! D3 (probably) - all drops "so what's the roll on this edge transit?"

I play everyday and the rewards just are not coming in. I’m not getting anything from the new raid after 6 clears except a few pieces of armor. I have 36 chests opened without a glittering key in Last Wish raid. I haven’t gotten a god roll legendary or a curated roll in 2 weeks. I mean you really can’t defend the reward system right now. You can grind all you want and still not get anything after months of trying. I can only do shattered throne a few tries a month but the ship never drops. Do you really blame people for desperately wanting an awesome game to play. Of course they hope Anthem will be good because this game does not reward your time. I guarantee Division 2 is going to take a lot more destiny players than Anthem. Either way Destiny is not in good shape rn. I just read an article that states the numbers are back to pre-Forsaken numbers. I honestly love Destiny but right now I feel like there is no point in doing anything because I never get rewards I can use- and I don’t have A LOT of things. Everything is just dismantled- even with a new forge and a new raid I don’t get anything. I’ve forged like 25 weapons. They really just need to take a step back from this whole reward system and give it some love. I like the random rolls and rare exotics but if you grind for something for 3 months religiously and still don’t have it, the system sucks.

I dont know why you think Bungie is so great. Destiny 2 is the most piss poor example of a hybrid mmo/ loot shooter that ever could have been conceived! Step back and let Bioware show you how it's suppose to be done son.

Anthem may not kill Destiny but it will sure make a he** of a gouge in it. I for one can't wait till Anthem comes out. Just read the Anthem forums, they plainly tell you that they have learned a lot from Destiny's mistakes and Destiny's mistakes are legion.

It won’t kill D2, but it will take a lot a players away, some permanently if it’s any good. If Anthem hits the mark and the game does what they say it will, I’m gone, no doubt. It’s sad and some are blind to it, but Bungie is milking is with artificial difficulty, wake up!