We know the awoken were created around the time of the Collapse, out on the edge of where the Light and the Darkness met. What if those awful energies (and maybe some tampering by someone or something?) resulted in the mixing of human and Hive? Assuming the Hive were at the forefront of the approaching Darkness. Look at the Queen talking in these Ghost Fragments. Ghost Fragment: Awoken 2 - [spoiler][quote]I was nothingness. If I existed before, I existed as possibility, as potential, stretched thin across the aether. And maybe there was a body that looked like my body, complete with a soul that could be confused for someone rather like me. What I am now was not yet real. And then I was born, and the universe was free to begin. Others were present at my birth. A great ceremony had just begun. Because newborns are selfish beasts, I assumed I was the object of attention. I didn't notice the singing until the singers fell silent. And then She appeared. She was above me. Ethereal and handsome and elegant. I assumed my face was like her face and that odd idea gave me strength enough to smile. "Secrets," she said. "Creation is built on secrets and the encryptions that keep those secrets safe." I made my first sound. It meant nothing but she understood it as a question. "We are a beautiful creation," she said. "And we must keep ourselves very safe."[/quote][/spoiler] A body that looked like my body. Who is this "She"? And notice the singing theme, like with Hive deathsingers. Ghost Fragment: Awoken 3 - [spoiler][quote]That’s the only vivid memory left in me. It’s the moment when my fear was so thick and urgent that I gave up breathing. I stopped pretending to think. How I remained on my feet was a mystery, because the terror was bearing down on me, like a mountain about to crush my soul. But I have to ask, “What was terrifying me?” Darkness ruled the sky. The world around us had shattered, and it seemed vanishingly unlikely that we would outlive this one awful day. Yet the fear didn’t come from the surrounding mayhem and despair. The source was inside my skin. I was utterly terrified of my own awful nature. And which part scared me? Inside me was an essence woven from beyond. Was I Awoken before this? She was still in my head. I could hear her song growing fainter. Gone? Not yet. A new crippling terror was taking over. I was focused entirely on my fear. But I had to make an effort. And it occurred to me then that nothing in the universe was more dangerous than human hubris. I still had this Other within? But the human side was what mattered: Weak and foolhardy, sure to fail in the next moment. That’s why I was afraid. Then someone spoke. Maybe it was me. I don’t remember. I was trying to focus, and a new thought took me: My soul lay between those two entities. And that’s how I am still: The boundary, the seam. The friction. And that’s when the fear began to fade.[/quote][/spoiler] Awful nature. Essence woven from beyond. "Other" within. Human side. References to singing again. Her soul lay between two entities. She says awoken are the boundary, the seam between these two entities. Skolas, communicating with the Queen before a confrontation Ghost Fragment: Fallen 4 - [spoiler][quote]This happens long ago, but not too long to matter. Ceres rules the Asteroid Belt. Ceres is the white queen of this space, four hundred million kilometers from the Sun. Ceres is round. Round means power, out here: nothing else in the Belt is big enough to crush itself into a sphere with its own gravity. Ceres has its own chemical stars. Shavings of salt and ice that glint in orbit. Like a crown. There are other lights, newer stars, newer crowns. Warship engines. Another queen is coming to conquer Ceres, because Ceres is full of warrens and shipyards and habitats, because Ceres is round and lucky as a Servitor. Because Ceres is full of the Wolves she wants to rule. Shark-fierce ships gather in squadrons and tribes. Skiffs. Ketches. The Kell of Wolves has a fleet gathered here. The Kell of Wolves heard the call, and summoned the House of Wolves to prepare for the great battle on Earth. The salvation of the Kell's people depends on their ability to shatter the City. It's a matter of survival. Now the Wolf fleet turns to meet the Queen. See the squadrons of Skiffs wrapping themselves in stealth, cold and transparent, knifing out invisible and brave? See the Ketches like broad blades, the bright thoughts of a Servitor guiding them to battle? See them turning, accelerating, waking up their jammers and their arc guns? All doomed. The Kell of Wolves will never make it to the Twilight Gap. The Kell of Wolves put all that strength in one place, and now the Queen of the Reef is coming to break it. Out there, coming out of the dark, are the Awoken. Not so great a fleet, is it? Little fighters scattered around like four-pointed thorns. Destroyers and frigates and salvaged hulls pulled out of the Reef. And right at the front, at the speartip, flies the Queen. The Wolf Kell, practical, brave, tallies strength of metal and equipment. The Kell considers the chance that the Awoken have some secret weapon, something gleaned from hulks in the Reef or whispered up by the witches, and sets that chance aside. The Kell thinks the House of Wolves can win decisively. So the Kell sends challenge and warning. I AM LORD OF WOLVES, the Kell sends. YOU ARE AN EMPTY THING WITH TWO DEAD SOULS. THIS IS MY HOUSE. THESE ARE MY TERMS. SURRENDER AND I WILL ONLY TAKE YOUR SHIPS. The Awoken fleet cuts their engines. Drifts. Wolf strike elements, torpedo-armed Skiffs hidden under jamming and camouflage, find their firing solutions. The Queen's ship broadcasts. I AM NOBLE TOO, she says, OH LORD OF WOLVES. The Kell doesn't mind a little banter before the kill. It gives the Wolf ships longer to draw the battle away from Ceres. The Kell replies. YOU HAVE NO LINE. YOU HAVE NO POWER. Captains and Barons signal their readiness, Skolas and Pirsis and Irxis, Drevis, Peekis, Parixas, all of them bound by fear and loyalty, all ready for war. STARLIGHT WAS MY MOTHER. The Queen's ship whispers in eerie erratic radio bursts. Servitors begin to report a strange taste in the void. AND MY FATHER WAS THE DARK. Here, at last, too late, the Kell begins to feel fear. CALL ON THEM, THEN, the Kell sends, one last mocking signal before death and ruin, AND SEE WHAT HELP THEY OFFER. So the Queen calls, as only she can. Every Servitor in every Ketch hears it. Every Captain and Baron roars at their underlings as sensors go blind, as firing solutions falter, as reactors stutter and power systems hum with induction. Stealth fails. Space warps. The House of Wolves shouts in spikes of war-code, maneuvers wild, fires blind. Behind the Queen's ship, the Harbingers awaken.[/quote][/spoiler] He calls her an empty thing with two dead souls. She claims to be noble too. Starlight is her mother and Darkness is her father. Is her Hive side perhaps a Hive noble? Savathun, Xiva Arath, Taox? Queen talking to Eris during The Coming War cinematic - [spoiler][quote] I remember everything about the day I was born. I still bear the scars. The Awoken are my family now and I am their Queen. We fought to keep our beautiful creation safe. And now this beast has come, claiming to be King. Mara Sov bows to no one. You and I know how this ends. We've known since you escaped from that... pit. The Awoken have played their part. This was all part of the plan. Guide them, my Hidden friend. It is all up to you now.[/quote][/spoiler] Various other perceptions/musings: The Awoken Techeuns are very similar to Hive Wizards. According to early Forsaken information, the Awoken have access to the Ascendant Realm and have some kind of tie to it. Might explain Eris ability to not just survive the Hellmouth for so long but to graft Hive body parts onto herself. If Awoken are Human/Hive, some of the Awoken could be named Hive that we haven't had trace of in game other than mentions. Remember the movie The Dark Crystal? [spoiler]At the end, when the crystal is made whole, the dark Skeksis and the light Mystics are merged into new beings. What if something similar happened to the Awoken?[/spoiler] What do you think? Does it have merit? Anything else that you can think of that supports/disproves the theory?