this is what I've been saying since launch. tons of posts don't amount to a hill of beans, the only thing a company recognizes is loss of revenue. if the people were actually fed up as they claim, they should stop playing, not spend with the company at all, not visit this site. that sends the clearest message ever, the only message they will take notice of.

Not just that but also stop coming here as well. They get money for clicks here. As long as people are coming here they are getting paid.

Unfortunately the casual fanbase this game is targeted at enjoy the state of this game. You might think that they dont exist because they dont browse the forums to take the piss out of bungie and they dont bother playing any endgame content because they can get the same rewards from playing 5 crucible matches so they arent on lfg looking for people to raid with. This is the MAJORITY of people playing the game at the moment. People on these forums are mostly players willing to invest more time in video games. Tldr - Casuals actually like d2 because they dont play enough to realise the game is empty and this is the majority of people buying the game

Now understand why D2 is what it is. https://www.gamespot.com/videos/the-point-destiny-the-hardcore-gamers-slot-machine/2300-6425852/ https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2itlvw/destiny_addictive_formula_detailed_by_bungie/ Watch the gamespot vid for a condensed version. I’ve also linked the research mentioned in the vid. You can clearly see why today RNG loot boxes are being rammed down our throats. Anyone who defends this practice when targeted at kids not to mention vulnerable adults should think twice imo.

On my second day of not playing ..don’t know if I can do it :/

Longtime bungie fanboi. I was the guy who brought over t.v's and consoles to friends houses so we could system link halo 1 and call of duty together under one roof. Systemlink party link. I was always a hardcore gamer of games worth playing before fads started. I went years avoiding games after halo reach dropped cause halo reach to me was an absolute flop. It was the first game i ever preordered and I was ashamed of myself for buying a crap game before ever experiencing it just cause i was a fanboi. Halo Reach Release date was held off a year so they could take away fan favorite grenades and add absolutely idiotic armor abilities which rarely were ever used by anyone! Whole bunch of halo titles dropped after that which i just sat out and ignored. I channeled my real life car tunning hobby into gaming and became a huge nfs archivist. Playing almost every title they offered over the span of 6 years. Years later d1 came. I ignored it for months, then a friend told me it was a bungie and activision collaboration, knowing that those brands were our niche back in the early 00's. Played the d1 demo and couldn't keep my hands off of it. So naturally, i went all in with the game and made d1 my fallback option for 3 years straight. Then d2's demo... I played it for 4 hours, returned my preorder and bought a google play card. There are tons of free to play games out that offer more options and replayability than d1 or d2. D1 went the right way but had a crap story. Developers need to learn that nerf herders are not useful people. The problem is genuinely that simple. Anyone who asks for content tweaks instead of competitive content to contend with percieved issues has no real opinion on the game. Just an opinion on why they dislike the game. That's their focus. Not to make the game any better, just to have someone acknowledge they had a valid point. Let's make the obvious case. Ability spam in d1 was one of the biggest nerf requests that found its way into d2.. Proof that reducing ability spam was an absolutely idiotic tactic and nerfherders have zero usable input comes in the form of crucible player numbers. Mayhem Crucible is the MOST played d2 content over the last 2 weeks. Well done nerfherders. Ruined a game so you could feel special, now, d1 content is the most played in d2... Pathetic... I'm Taking another hiatus from the bungie brand as it seems i should never had rejoined the brand in the first place. Datto King Gothalion Gigz JMP These people are not content creators. They're leeches. Youtube critics. People who tell you what to do, then when you do it, they play the game less and less. Stop appealing to these feeble minded idiots and start making groundbreaking trend setting games again. I know the request is massive but pride was once an endearing quality in developers. Asking for people to tell you what your game needs to be perfect is either extremely fuqn lazy or a pathetic marketing tool meant to attract socialites unlikely to ignore trends... A.k.a. streamers and the like. TL;DR?: make content to tune content. Nerfing and buffing code is lazy and unacceptable.

dont forget to stop posting here as we REALLY dont want to hear your B.S.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If all they care about is money, don't give them a cent. If they won't listen to our feedback, stop trying to help them fix their broken game. Money talks and the real hashtag should be #QuitPlaying

[quote]The best feedback is not to play.[/quote] Agreed, I'm not playing today between 7pm and 12pm PST. Edit: I meant 7am dammit

I can't man i'm addicted to doing heroic adventures!!!... said nobody ever....

Come back to D1! This week the heroic strikes are small arms and solar burn. Break out them Vex Mythoclasts. and Nightfall is Archon Priest with solar burn and specialist aka Ice Breakin' time

I've given up on Destiny for the foreseeable future. I can't and won't tell people how to spend their time or money. But I just wanted to give my two cents. Bungie have grossly underperformed with D2 (not just including Eververse) and the WHOLE community NEEDS to understand that getting D2 to a state where it has ALL the requested features of Y3 D1 does NOT really represent progress. They will promote it as that, but it's just another jedi mind trick lol! D2 will not live up to its name UNTIL it builds off the existing material from y3 D1, from big to small things (e.g. incredible boss battles, building on implementation of vehicles - incl air combat, new modes, MORE powers, new enemies in existing factions, MORE customisation options, more meaningful opportunities to access lore etc) tbh there's so many ways they could've knocked it out of the park As a community of gamers, you SHOULD make Bungie accountable and keep your standards high, good enough should NEVER be good enough. All game developers must strive for excellence. Those of you that stick around I hope D2 delivers.

Iam just loving this game more than i did on 1 how can people attack an certain currency while you are not forced to buy the dlc or whatever its an decision you only can make I played the demo first then i realised that i needed the whole game so i bought the destiny 2 without dlc so far i cant realy complain against eververse i just ignore the paying part .. farming is the best solution for me ok ill never get the payed stuff of that but i dont care a bit as long you get free stuff iam ok with it do you need to buy it -- ill skip it but stop playing the game i realy payed for .. how about no!

Stopped 2 months ago, didn't buy the DLC and have no intention too. Couldn't agree with you more, well said. Was a huge D1 player ran a sizeable clan, had such high hopes for D2 was so let down from the start I've been saying this since the start.

Your right and we should all do this, only thing is that ignoring and leaving won't make them fix it that's not how companies work, they will just drop the IP, we waste our money and destiny will be dead, they don't adapt to us because it won't make them money "in their eyes" to them it means the product didn't sell or play therefore it's bad and everything stops

We could also stop playing D2, and go back to playing D1 in mass numbers, that would send a huge message.

I agree I show up once a week to collect my fated engram from xur. Now that I have all I need I'll wait for some better game updates. Bitching will get you nowhere. Don't play until they make the game better.

Between D1 and D2, I have well around 3,000+ hours spent. Doubt I will return even if EverPurse is removed. They still recycle too much. Very little innovation is noticed in this game from it's predecessor. I would like to see new enemies, new mechanics, better rewards and fun ways to earn them. Crucible needs tuned, shaders need fixed, vault space and inventory need reworked. I am blown away by how this game just didn't improve over the first.

I agree. Years of feedback have yielded jack shit for actual results. The large majority of the changes that were made because of our feedback have been reverted in some way. I'm done.