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Edited by Lxj: 4/4/2017 9:01:22 PM
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You did, you just need a small amount of common sense to realize you're killing the industry, you don't have to be a gaming expert. You can all try to justify your pre-order, but you're buying something that you know very little about. All pre-ordering does is encourage companies to produce unfinished games. too many replies, cba to reply anymore, thanks for upvotes but never positive bois
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  • while I do agree with all youre saying here...... They waive Cayde - 6 in front of my face, and told me those two catchy words [spoiler] LIMTED TIME ![/spoiler] shaat!! I couldn't resist, I said !! blame me for being a fallen one

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    Dammit Wiggly

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  • ThaaaWW Shucks!!! I couldn't help it LOL !

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    lol what did you do to the likes

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  • confused them !

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  • $5 for beta access.... you blow $40 taking a chick out to eat expecting to get lucky and more than likely failing

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    I would take her to McDonalds tho

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  • Touché

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    Good day sir. *Tips hat*

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  • Why does he need to justify something that he used his own money on?

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    This is my opinion, I'm not forcing him to do anything, he wanted to counter argue, so I asked him to explain. Do you understand that??

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  • Edited by ValorNDarkness: 4/4/2017 8:26:17 PM
    The whole "preorders are killing the industry" line is becoming old. The company has their road map and it isn't going to change based on preorders. Musicians don't change their set list based on how many tickets were sold. Comedians don't change their routine based on how many tickets are sold. Gaming companies have their road map, odds are it's a minimum of 18 months because that's the normal road map of large companies. They arent thinking anymore about "preorders for Destiny 2" the final 4 months is all about fixing bugs, editing, and marketing. They are not sitting in a room saying "you know what if we only get 100,000 preorders compared to 1 million we should probably change this and change that" Yes I know decisions are made in the later process of development (aka the last minute change to destiny's story) but believe me The Dark Below and House of Wolves were already set in stone roughly a year and a half before the preorders even started. Preorder sales didn't determine the decision to cut content and change the story, stupid executives decided that. Developers are given deadlines and they do what the can by the investors deadlines. This is how the big business world works. Everyone would like to think Bungie has free reign over "their own" game, but in reality they don't. The shareholders and investors have a gigantic say in what gets released and when not Bungie.

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  • Not really. Kind of. Executives for companies like Activision can influence productization, but not the actual creative content. Bungie legally owns the IP and if Activision starts making demands about the content itself, bungie could literally take them to court. Also shareholders in public companies unless they own over a certain total of the preferred stock do not have any say in product distribution what so ever. The only time shareholders would have that say is in a private company where the shareholder is the majority.

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  • Bungie is privately owned dude...

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  • Yes and the Execs are mostly senior Dev's so bungie still has creative control. Outside shareholders will have very little influence over the creative development.

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  • Man its crazy that some random that's played over 40 days on this game is so in tuned with the inner workings of bungie... [spoiler]sniff sniff I smell BullS*%t[/spoiler]

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  • Welcome to how companies work buddy. It's not some magical formula. What does play time have to do with anything? Year 2 and 3 barely have any time in them because this game turned into a stupid BS cosmetic chase and skin swap.

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  • My point is if a date and a timeline is set there going to be pushed to it. They arent going to jusy say "screw your date, we'll do it on our own time" the. Investors and shareholders pull out and their funding is cut. I'm starting to think you don't understand how the business world works and are just spewing garbage without any actual knowledge

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  • That is up to the T&C of the contract between Activision and bungie. The shareholders themselves don't care about the IPs, they care about the overall company share value and any KPIs. Activision can dictate the hard dates for release in accordance with the contract and bungie has to adhere unless they submit a change request.

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  • Not really. Kind of. Executives for companies like Activision can influence productization, but not the actual creative content. Bungie legally owns the IP and if Activision starts making demands about the content itself, bungie could literally take them to court.

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  • Edited by Lxj: 4/4/2017 8:25:32 PM
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    We could both sit here and argue both ways for 2 hours to no avail. You're wrong and you're right, as am I. Yes executives are stupid. CBA to fight anymore.

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  • Pre ordering does not do it They want to release unfinished games because the publishers put idiotic deadlines and developers are to inept to meet it

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  • Couldn't agree more dude, but since regardless I'm gonna spend at least 3-5 months on it because I can hangout with all my friends and have bit of fun, I'll pre order. However besides this and dark souls (or Any souls game) I won't pre order and will wait until I see reviews. Destiny and souls are exceptions for me

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  • yep I bought God of War 4 two years ago !! no pre order..... just paid it off dedicated fan

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  • Edited by ValorNDarkness: 4/4/2017 8:27:17 PM
    Absolutely I agree, I just swap out Dark Souls for Gears of War and Halo in my case :)

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