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11/10/2016 1:04:34 AM
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This is what happens when you push pc to far, you get a counter reaction. This time it is named President Trump
Remember this liberals next time:
•You say being anti illegal immigration is racist
•Try to close a privately owned Christian business for not pandering to LBGT
•You're being racist towards white people (racism is wrong you guys) :|
•Prevent speakers who hold ideals different from yours from even speaking
•etc
Just think if you had left your damn pc witch hunt, so many people would of not bothered voting for Trump. You are the cause of this.
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>not pandering to LGBT groups Yeah, if you own a business you're obligated to serve everyone equally regardless of your beliefs. You can't deny somebody service based on somebody's sexuality. If you refuse to make a cake for somebody that is gay, because you personally hate gay people you're in violation of federal civil laws, and yes if sued you will lose. Don't like it? Tough shit. Instead sell equally to everyone, and stop acting like a cry baby.
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What say you about the gay bakery that denied service to a pastor? If I'm not mistaken, that is essentially the same thing you are saying is wrong. But then again, I'm no legal scholar. So, I guess tough shit for the pastor? And in that case, NO litigation was brought against the bakery. Hmmmm, I wonder why people are mad...
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Then you should allow anyone who wants to come into your house come into your house as well
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Go away fake lincoln
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[quote] Remember this liberals next time: •You say being anti illegal immigration is racist •Try to close a privately owned Christian business for not pandering to LBGT •You're being racist towards white people (racism is wrong you guys) :| •Prevent speakers who hold ideals different from yours from even speaking •etc [/quote] First: No, anti-illegal immigration is not racist. That's not what we said. What we said was that making statements about stereotyping race is racist, because [b]it is[/b]. Second: So now businesses can deny you business because of your sexual orientation? Of course we tried to close the business, that's -blam!-ed up. Third: What you call racism towards the White race is actually pointing out that all races are by no means equal in the U.S., because they aren't. Fourth: Trump supporters are absolutely guilty of this too. That doesn't justify it, but don't pretend that it's just Clinton supporters. These are just the radicals from both parties. Fifth: I chose Clinton. This is because she is, yes, absolutely untrustworthy, but she didn't make repeated ignorant/arrogant/racist/hypocritical/fear mongering statements in rallies and on TV. This doesn't mean that she never did it, but Trump did it much more consistently than she did. He also repeatedly stated that Putin was doing a better job leading the U.S. than Obama, which is absolutely untrue. Now we really do have a puppet for Putin in office, who has access to the most powerful military intelligence the world. Clinton did and said many stupid things, absolutely, and I regret my party not feeling the Bern, but she was infinitely better than Trump.
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So basically Trump hurt your feelings? Is that your point?
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I hate people like you. Seriously? He "hurt my feelings"? No, he proved himself to be incredibly ignorant and arrogant. Clinton at least had facts and a plan. Please, -blam!- off. You're (so far) one of those people who's going to try to go for sarcastic, passive-aggressive insults. Stop. If you want to be a dick, I'm sure there are plenty of other places that'll welcome you. If you want a serious political debate, then I'm very open to that. So if you're going to keep doing this, then leave. Go away, you're not wanted here. I will only have debates with people that are mature and respectful, and so far, you are neither.
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There are only two genders and one sexual orientation
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Edited by pyre: 11/10/2016 8:21:02 PMYou're joking, right? [spoiler]Please tell me that you're joking and not that ignorant and arrogant.[/spoiler]
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Nope. There is a male, female, and nothing else. No gioy or birl or stapler. They are also naturally attracted to each other and get married to each other, not all this stuff happening today
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Edited by pyre: 11/10/2016 8:40:40 PM[quote]Nope. There is a male, female, and nothing else. No gioy or birl or stapler. They are also naturally attracted to each other and get married to each other, not all this stuff happening today[/quote] So you're saying that lesbians, gays, bi, and trans are all liars and don't actually exist? You're one of those people that disagrees with LGBT because... why? The Bible says it's wrong? The Bible also says nothing against slavery, and that's wrong. Obviously there are only two genders, but sexual orientations? No.
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There is one sexual orientation. How can a lesbian or gay couple give back to society because that's what natural marriage is. Man and woman give children to society and they cannot do that. Gay feelings is not wrong but acting on those is wrong. And the Bible does say bad things about slavery, Moses brought the slaves out of slavery because they knew it was bad. There are other things in the Bible saying it's wrong, you just haven't read it and trust media to tell you it
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Why'd you have to bring the Bible into this? It's like the Wikipedia of politics. It gives answers...but even if they're right it doesn't count as a reliable source. Get a better book.
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Edited by pyre: 11/10/2016 9:03:31 PMSo all couples must reproduce? They must have children, even with the issues of overpopulation? The gay/lesbian couple can't contribute to society in other ways, such as engineering or computer science? I also don't think you quite understand what a sexual orientation is. You're believing it to be wrong and pointless won't stop it from existing. And I don't know if you knew, but artificial impregnation has been a thing for a while now. Lesbian couples can reproduce, and gay coupled can adopt if they want to. As a Christian myself, I have read the Bible. Yeah. It says slavery is wrong in a few places. But most of the book? No, it's an accepted part of life. If they practiced it, shouldn't we? Of course not. I assume that now "the media is corrupt", huh? Yeah, they tell lies, but they tell plenty of truths too.
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There is no overpopulation in America. The birthrate is about 1.8 or something and that is as low as it can get to support a nation. I'm not gonna say anything about your beliefs but as Christians, yes we should love everyone and accept everyone but we should go against gay marriage and stuff
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Good God man, do you not realize the overpopulation in the world? There's plenty in the large cities of the US, but places like China and India? You're also one of those people that's obviously resistant to change. As Christians, we are supposed to accept and love everyone. That's a one way street. You can't just love [b]some[/b] people and accept [b]some[/b] people. If you can't accept and love everyone, no matter their sexual orientation, then you need to spend some serious time studying the ideals of Christianity.
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Your second point is actually evil. Forcing someone to support a way of life they don't believe in is wrong in itself. Business owners who refuse to serve others due to their sexual preference are punished by the loss of a sale, and that's their choice to make. Shutting down their business because they stand by their beliefs is -blam!-ed up.
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Beliefs that are outdated and ridiculous. The largest argument against LGBT rights is that the Bible said that "no men shall sleep together". The Bible also had plenty of slavery in it, and that was perfectly fine. People can't just pick and choose what's okay and what's not. If I'm gay, why should I not be able to walk in to a bar because of my sexual preference? Is that so repulsive to people? Businesses should never be able to deny service to someone based on their sexual orientation or religion, whatever they may think about it. That's incredibly -blam!-ed up.
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You preach tolerance of all this shit but when someone disagrees you have no tolerance yourself. If I want to disagree with gay shit then I can disagree with gay shit. Just because I disagree with it doesn't mean that I actually care. Anybody can be gay all they want as long as they don't rub it in my face and demand that I support them. Hell I don't want that from a straight couple either. Keep your business your business and we will be good.
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I have no tolerance? Yeah. None at all for people that want to prevent gay couples from being legally together because it makes them feel [i]uncomfortable[/i]. Seriously? If you and your wife (or husband) couldn't be married because some gay people said that it felt weird to them, how would you feel? I myself am Christian, and I believe in the ideals of Christianity. I don't take the Bible literally. I don't believe that God actually flooded the Earth for 40 days and 40 nights, but I do believe that that's in the Bible to teach us a lesson about the greed of humanity. As a Christian, we are supposed to love, accept, and respect everyone, and give them all the rights that all humans have. One of these rights is marriage. So yeah, I absolutely have no tolerance for bullshit like that.
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It doesn't effect you at all though. It's not your place to judge them. Love your enemy right?
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So what you're saying is that, if it doesn't affect me, I shouldn't care? I shouldn't care about the billions of people in poverty, the children dying of sickness because they have no medicine, and the pollution of the world? Yeah. I do love my enemy, but love can portray itself in more than just agreeing with them. Love can be trying to show them, and teach them, the better, higher way. The try acceptance of everyone, no matter their sexual orientation, religion, or skin color. My party's ideas are the most tolerant, by far, if you hadn't noticed yet. I myself tolerate most things, but outdated and ridiculous ideas are not something I will stand for. These ideas are the ones that I will stand up against.
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That's fine but hatred for the people you disagree with isn't going to help anything. And this is all your opinions too. Some would argue it's not out of date. Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean it's fact
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Edited by pyre: 11/11/2016 5:08:43 PMExcept I don't hate them. I disagree quite strongly, and those ideas are [b]very[/b] outdated. That point isn't is arguable. We are judging people based on their sexual orientation. Denying them the constitutional right of their pursuit of happiness because of their sexual orientation. Yeah, it's my opinion, but it was also Abe Lincoln's opinion that slavery was wrong. There is no legitimate reason to stop gays from marriage. I understand the point you're trying to make, but it's invalid. It's more than just my opinion, it's unconstitutional. Of course that's a two way road, because killing people makes maniacs happy, but that's an entirely different case.
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I believe you said "I hate you" a few posts ago. Just reminding you.
