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8/31/2016 4:09:44 PM
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You didn't have your Imago Loop equipped or perks listed when I first replied to this post.
You were complaining about getting one with sureshot, spray and play, hammer forged and firefly. No good perks. Really?
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Spay and Play is quite bad. I perpetually reload. Waiting until I am out of bullets versus when it is convenient is pointless. Spray and Play should be replaced with Feeding Frenzy.
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[quote]Spay and Play is quite bad for my play style. I perpetually reload. Waiting until I am out of bullets versus when it is convenient is pointless. Spray and Play should be replaced with Feeding Frenzy.[/quote] I went ahead and fixed your post. Not every player does the same thing.
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Spray and Play is bad for Hand Cannons. Makes sense for bullet hoses like AR's and some Pulse Rifles. Feeding Frenzy and Outlaw are the only two perks that should be on Hand Cannon last and Scouts, play style or not.
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You are right. A faster reload perk on an extremely slow reloading weapon is useless. I don't know what I was thinking. Op would be much better off with any of these perks Partial Refund Underdog Rescue Mag Danger Close Surrounded Exhumed Relentless Tracker Hot Swap Last Resort [armory]Imago Loop[/armory]
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Feeding Frenzy and Outlaw should be on Hand Cannons and Scouts. Spray and Play is for bullet hoses. Tweak that however you like. Hand Cannons are awkward in that damage to magazine size doesn't always facilitate waiting to run out of billets to reload and maintain effectiveness. Outlaw is great because hand cannons are all about precision. Feeding Frenzy is better in the it procs more, but it reloads slower. Both are situationally better than Spray and Play for hand cannons. I would love to trade you all of my spray and play perks for your Outlaw rolls.
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[quote]Spay and Play is quite bad[/quote] I am disagreeing with this statement. [quote]Spray and Play should be replaced with Feeding Frenzy[/quote] I have no opinion on this statement.
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Quite bad may be an overstatement in and of itself. Quite bad compared to Outlaw is the way I should have written it. Quite bad compared to Feeding Frenzy is another way to put it. Spray and Play does not belong on Hand Cannons, unless that hand cannon is TLW. Spray and Play should be replaced with Feeding Frenzy. Then both Feeding Frenzy and Outlaw should be weighed heavily on rolls. Anyone can argue that spray and ply is better than Surrounded and they may be right. Anyone that argues that Spray and Play is better than Feeding Frenzy or Outlaw for hand cannons has not used a hand cannon.
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Edited by King Nis: 9/1/2016 7:58:09 PMI just have to interject here and state, that sometimes. Just [i]sometimes[/i] you do forget to reload. It happens to everyone in the heat of battle.
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*sometimes. It is way more situational than not. If they removed Surrounded and replaced it with Feeding Frenzy and you had the ability to get either Spray and Play, Feeding Frenzy or Outlaw, that would be nice. Personally, I never actually forget to reload. Using Fatebringer for more than a year has ingrained a need to reload after every critical kill. It's habit. That said, I would rather take my chances on forgetting to reload versus having to run out of bullets before I reload. It never fails that you get down to 3 bullets before a round of 8 ads decide to spawn in. So you'd be reloading in the middle of a battle at the most inconvenient time.
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Edited by King Nis: 9/1/2016 8:05:54 PMI cannot disagree with you there. It's good to see the debate between you two be civil and stating opinions instead of just hate thrown back and forth. Neither are right, nor wrong. I just felt like chiming in and adding that small tidbit. Edit: For grammar.
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Edited by SquattingTurtle: 8/31/2016 7:11:24 PMI'm talking about WITH firefly. But i can add that out of the 50 or something imagos i got, only one came with rangefinder, all the others were the usual unfavorable perks.
