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8/14/2016 8:00:03 PM
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It's fine. Radiance is one of the best Supers in the game right now, especially with the recent buff in the July Update.
You have to remember, Its a Support Class, not an Aggressive Class. You're not going to do anything but die if you rush in like a Bladedancer.
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Are you high?
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Are you? I'm just saying it how it is.
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Support what, scrubs from lfg in nightfalls . Its garbage in pvp...
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You're kidding right? It absolutely melts enemy supers. It gives your teammates their Supers and abilities back by just standing near them. It allows you to tank enemy shots giving you an advantage over the enemy in combat making easy orbs (can easily beat a 1v3). Coming back from the dead allowing for Surprise attacks and can prevent a team wipe. Can effectively lock down half of an entire map or help push an objective. This is just the Super. Most of the perks don't even effect that. Sunsingers by far have the best grenades. They have an ability to make grenades to bonus DoT on impact and another to make them more vulnerable while they burn. They have a perk to hold a second of those great grenades. They have a perk that allows the player to go or in the air which makes great for surprises and allows Sniping and Fusion Rifling enemies from the air. They have a perk to generate orbs or make enemies explode from melee kills. How does this class suck? This is one of the better Support Classes in the game.
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"Melts enemy supers" I think you forgot the satire tag
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Try t out
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1. Song of flame doesnt help your partners regen super 2. Its not a tank super when you can be ohk by snipers and almost every super. 3. Best nades in game? In what universe does sunsinger have better nades than voidwalker? Firebolts barely hit and when they do its for little damage (watch videos everyone says this grenade is trash now) fusion nades sunbreaker has too and hunters have a very similar nade. Solar nades are just like vortex nades or the striker one no one uses. And the bonus damage with damage over time cause of viking funeral...you mean the 5% damage buff for 3 seconds jesus overpowered.
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Ummm, yes, Song of Flame does help your team regen Super, go watch a video. As for Grenades, yes, they are the best. Fusion Grenades do the most damage of any grenade. Firebolt Grenades are the easiest to use. They also help with spreading the DoT and debuff. Bolt nades are meant to easily tag people for slight damage for an advantage in the gunfight. They do that pretty well just saying they can almost 2 tap people. Solar Grenades are great for area control. They do a large burst of damage on impact and then do multiple rapid bursts of damage the longer you stand in it. This grenade only gets better when paired with ToF and VF. And if this grenade is so Shity, then why is that the only grenade that Nightstalkers use. Voidwall does more damage and last longer, Spike does more damage and has slightly less range than a Lightning Nade. For Viking Funeral. It's a stackable buff that lasts for about 5 seconds. You also have plenty of time to pull out your weapon and shoot before the grenade even lands. Viking Funeral is great for taking out Supers and wiping teams. As for a tank, it has very high armor compared to other roaming Supers. Also, every Super can be 1hko by a Sniper. Why does that have anything to do with only Sunsinger? It allows for you to tank shots while your team gang bangs the enemies. Sunsinger is one of the best Subclasses still. I don't understand why people think and exploitable grenade was the only thing the class had. The class has so much to offer.
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Edited by Vocabulary: 8/17/2016 10:35:41 PMI like the fusion grenade but I see videos of people using max discipline and firebolt grenades getting chucked at everything
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Song of flame doesnt effect supers please go test it out as I have plenty of time played on a sunsinger a 5% damagw buff isn't worth being used it makes no difference with damage in pvp tlw will still take 2 shots after tagging with the nade with or without viking. What makes radiance different from every class is that well an example here is hammer of sol gets just slightly less armour But gets ohk proximity explosive hammers and sunsingers get to use their weapons? With this game being in a special weapon meta having slightly more armour than a normal guardian isn't a super.
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Go watch a video or actualy test it. It has been this way since launch.
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Edited by Kryptonight: 8/15/2016 6:53:19 PMYou're not just wrong You're stupid. Lol best nades when 2/3 other classes have and the last one is garbage. Only 1/3 useable melees viking funeral is garbage defend it all you want it doesn't speed up killing bosses or enemies is pvp (been tested) and having scorch kills generate an orb of light is garbage that leaves 1 choice. Gift of the sun is the only reliable one of the last group angel of light is fun as hell but isn't actually useful. And touch of flame makes a made do like 20 more damage if that. Just an fyi check guardian.gg defender and nightstalker are both outperforming sunsinger in pvp with k/d and in pve if you're saying you could only pick one You'd pick sunsinger to have on your team over a bubble or tether...lol
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Edited by Vocabulary: 8/17/2016 10:37:45 PMKryptonight ............. get out of here
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Viking Funeral wig Fusion Grenades does the most DPS of any weapon or ability in he game. Viking Funeral is vey useful in PvP. It can be used with Virebolts and Solar to get easy kills or with Fusions to melt enemy Supers. Try it out, it's been tested and works. All 3 grenades are very useful if used right. Solar can be used to trap enemies from running away or to keep them out. It does this job well. Firebolt is used for easy chip damage to get easy kills in combat. Fusion is great for damage. It only takes 2 to kill a Sunbreaker. Add Viking Funeral and these grenades do so much better. As for the tree perks, all of hen are very viable. Generating orbs is very useful in PvP as it generates their teams supers faster. Explosions on melee kills is fantastic for clearing groups of enemies, especially while in radiance. Angle of Light is a great option for getting kills from unsuspecting enemies. ToF and Gift of Sun make useing grenades so much more effective. Sunsinger is such a great class. I don't understand why people think it's under powered because an exploit was removed while the class got a giant buff.
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You're such an idiot no where have I said that its a bad class because of the change to viking funeral. 1. Fusions with Viking does not dish out more damage than black spindle headshots. Thats been tested already. At best you could almost break even with the damage across your entire team what a great super. And generating orbs with your melee is cool and all but melee doesnt recharge fast unless in your super and even then you run around like a wanna be bladedancer. Everyone says the class is bad because statistically it is the worst performing class in pvp and is the least supportive of any other in pve. It will never be as useful as bubble or tether. I dont care for the viking funeral to be Changed back to its ridiculous days. But I think itd be nice if sunsinger had something that could make them compete with bubble or tether in pve as a support class. Im sure thats not asking for too much?
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They are just as competitive. They do fantastic in Crucible depending on skill. You can't just say that they have lower KD. Maybe more little kids want to throw space magic and are ruining the numbers. The numbers have never changed based on the updates. My question is, why give the class another advantage when they are preforming fine?
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Edited by Kryptonight: 8/15/2016 8:49:39 PMI wish youd just check facts before replying. The website I mentioned uses k/d from the last 10 days. Still performing the worst. And any class is good with skill thats a stupid statement But lets factor out pvp. In pve defender gives a better longer lasting damage buff and with force barrier you can generate more orbs because of the perk that generates an orb with every melee kill with force barrier active. Nightstalker gives a better damage buff and is the best at generating orbs everyone knows that. Song of flame does not recharge ally supers I will provide video proof if I have to. So tell me in what way sunsinger is competing with the lowest pvp k/d average and the least useful support utility in pve.
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Sunsinger has the best grenade setup They can self revive They can recharge teammate's SUPERS and abilities faster They can tank for a team push They can do a shit ton more damage than all of the other supers (yes they do more than Black Spindle headshots) The orb can be generated by just a single melee kill and can be chained with sunburst The class has a built in second grenade The grenades can cause bonus DoT damage The burn that is caused by scorch or grenade DoT can cause a lingering debuf that stacks for about 5 seconds a pop (Radiance can make this completely devestating to high health enemies) They have Angel of Light that allows easy Sniping from the air and also Fusion Rifles can take advantage of this How is Sunsinger bad?
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Ill give you this though fusions with viking will out damage a black spindle by...7% I mean surely thats comparable to a defenders flat 30% buff....but sunsingers can tank... blessing of light and sunsingers with radiant skin need the same amount of damage to die. Except blessing effects all partners who walk into it.
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Edited by Phnx y0: 8/15/2016 9:41:33 PMNot only that, it adds to the tether and weapons buff. It stacks with itself as well as other debuffs. So you will as a team do much more damage with a VF Sunsinger on your team. As for the tank, can Titans spam grenades like the Warlock? And does the overshield run out quickly?
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No titans spam explosive hammers. Or use a flaming shoulder charge. Bad example and idc that it stacks with tether or bubble we are comparing the usefulness of a class against another. And sunsinger will always be worse than defender or nightstalker unless it gets a rework.
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It's fine but whatever bro.
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https://youtu.be/2x3ZJ8Bw2g4 Goto 9:15 he respawns and has the song of flame buff from his partner and starts spamming grenades...but wait that super is recharging at lightning speed right? Idiot.
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https://m.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/4qj1a4/fusion_grenades_viking_funeral_has_greater_dps/ Here is the DPS stats. As for the SoF, it's not going to make it recharge like a grenade. It will take about 15 seconds off he timer.
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15 SECONDS HOLY SHIT THATS LIKE ONE WHOLE ORB OF LIGHT
