Tried tonight with 2x310 and 1x317...not a chance. What a joke of a mission, I like a challenge but this was just a waste of an evening. Everyone was left frustrated so decided to do a POE to calm down and due to the awesome loot system we got nothing of worth so another waste of time. One guy who has the spindle jumped in to help and commented that it was never that difficult before when he's helped other people out and when he got his. OP ads everywhere, even the blights take a full magazine from a 317 hung jury...really!!! Just watch the YouTube videos of people doing this when it first came out. Their weapons melt the ads and they get plenty of time to focus on the boss...not anymore. No ammunition anywhere, bullet sponge ads around, boss with huge health. By the time you make a dent in the ads the blights are back and you haven't even been able to fire a round at the boss...mainly because he's hiding at the back of the pillar but soon you're overwhelmed and constantly dying, can't even look at a blight without getting wiped out and all in 5 minutes. Maybe being able to restart at the top of the lift would make things easier and less frustrating but having to put another 10-15 minutes into just getting there to be annihilated for five minutes...no thanks, you can keep your gun. This mentality and the terrible RNG I get reminds me of why I stopped playing destiny in the first place. The group are all year 1 players and it was great to get everyone back after the update. Everyone was buzzing yesterday about being back, not so much after tonight. 5 attempts at something that we were expecting to be a challenge but this was far from that. It was like doing Crota on hard mode using level 28 guardians...possible but extremely unlikely. The only way to make it to the final room in time was to sword the whole thing then hope your team isn't down too long. At one point we got close to getting the boss down but the room was absolutely full of high level ads so it was never going to happen in the allocated time. So the night started off exciting and in great spirits, ended up totally sick of the game again, even the chat party was silent...that's not what a game is about!!! It should be fun, interesting and challenging but have an end in sight. It's as if you guys just think how hard and ridiculous you can make this because it's all the more rewarding for the player...that's not true. Even if we had of gotten it at the end of attempt 5 I'd still be writing this because it wasn't fun, entertaining or enjoyable at all, it was frustrating, pointless and insulting. The more I play Destiny again it really reminds me why I stopped as the more I realise bungie are like storemen in the military when it comes to exotics and unique items...stores are for storing, not for issuing to the guys that deserve it. That's how most of these exotic quests are. If you're not being forced into the crucible then you're being made to run around like a fool and work your arse off to the point where you have to wonder when the game began to feel more like a major chore than actually being a fun game that you paid money to play.